Shining Light - The Physics Behind This Phenomenon?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the optical phenomenon observed in photographs of Christmas lights, specifically the appearance of light emanating from distinct points around the bulbs. Participants explore potential explanations for this effect, including concepts related to diffraction, refraction, and the influence of camera lens structures.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the appearance of light from four distinct points around the bulbs and questions the cause, suggesting it may relate to spherical aberration and refraction.
  • Another participant proposes that the effect could be due to diffraction or saturation of the camera's detector array.
  • A later reply identifies the phenomenon as "diffraction spikes," referencing a previous discussion on the topic.
  • Some participants discuss the potential for similar effects caused by eyelashes or camera irises, suggesting that any obstruction can lead to diffraction spikes.
  • One participant attempts to analyze the phenomenon, explaining that diffraction spikes occur when light is viewed through a lens with support vanes, leading to interference patterns.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about how solid objects can affect light, questioning the need for strong gravity to bend light.
  • One participant clarifies that light waves can bend around obstacles, leading to interference, and draws a parallel to the Double Slit Experiment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the identification of the phenomenon as diffraction spikes, but there remains some uncertainty regarding the underlying mechanisms and explanations for how solid objects influence light.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express limitations in their understanding of the physics involved, particularly regarding the bending of light and the nature of interference. There are unresolved questions about the specifics of how diffraction spikes are generated and the role of various obstructions.

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I've taken a picture of my christmas lights. I'm wondering if someone could help me explain, or at least name, the phenomenon?


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5925/physicsphotocontestto9.jpg

Why does light appear to come from 4 distinct points around the light? Even though some bulbs are rotated, the position of these 4 points do not rotate with it. It's always -up-, -right-, -left-, and -down-. Why?

If someone could link me to an article about this phenomenon, or at least give me a name of it, that would help a lot. Some of my friends are saying it has to do with spherical aberration. But I don't understand how. It seems, to me, to be spherical aberration and the following pattern at the same time:

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6599/physicsphotoexplainty7.png


Which could be caused by refraction, right? But how?

Thanks for any replies.
- Sane
 
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what happens when you rotate the camera?

It could be diffraction or saturation of the detector array.
 
It's always up with respect to the orientation of the camera. I took another picture to clarify:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9733/physicsphotorotatekn4.jpg

So I guess that means it has to do with the lens inside the camera. Is there anything specific I can research?
 
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Diffraction spikes, brilliant! Thanks. I get many excellent hits with this term.

Thank-you.
 
Do eyelashes cause a similar phenomenon? How about the iris of a camera?
 
Loren Booda said:
Do eyelashes cause a similar phenomenon? How about the iris of a camera?

It seems like it'll be anything that obstructs light directly before entering the lens. You can even place strings in front of a telescope and get diffraction spikes (as russ_watters has apparently done).
 
I could not find an objective explanation of Diffraction Spikes anywhere... not even on Wikipedia. Most sites just referenced little things you could do, and the overall effect. I found a couple sites that explained very briefly what happens, so I tried to piece together all of these things to make the following analysis of my photo.

(Disclaimer: This may not be 100% accurate, but if it helps anyone else who stumbles upon this thread get a better understanding of Diffraction Spikes, then great. And maybe someone could help correct any inaccuracies/elaborate on my analysis.)

When you observe this photo, you will see that there is light radiating horizontally and vertically from each light bulb. The light does not radiate in a sphere, but rather in four directions. Also, even though some of the light bulbs are rotated, the lines of light do not rotate with it. Why does this effect occur?

This optical phenomenon is known as “Diffraction Spikes”, and is common in many astronomy photos. The effect is apparent whenever a bright source of light is viewed through a lens with support vanes that obstruct light. This lens can potentially be the lens of a camera, glasses, or even your eyes.

When a lens is directly obstructed with anything thin and solid, light waves will bend around and constructively interfere on the other side, creating thin lines of light in the shape of the obstructive item. This effect becomes more noticeable as the amount of light entering the lens increases. In this case, the diffraction spikes do occur in all of the image’s light, but is only visible for the brightest sources.

In the camera, due to the way the lens was constructed, the lens has support vanes in the pattern of a crosshair. As a result, the interfering light is a horizontal and vertical line.

The item that obstructs the light may be anything thin and solid, even an eyelash. That is why if you squint and look at a bright light, you can get the same effect, due to your eyelashes behaving like support vanes in a camera’s lens.
 
i don't understand how a solid object can bend light... i thought you need strong gravity to do that, as in huge stars in space? Shouldn't you just get a shadow star or something...
 
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That's one thing I wasn't clear on myself, and need to explain better once I understand it more. I don't think it's so much that it's bending it, but that the waves can go around obstacles. And that results in interference. Similar to the Double Slit Experiment. I think... Clarification, anyone?
 

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