Sign convention for work of a gas

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When a gas expands, the work done by the gas is considered positive, as it exerts energy on the surroundings. However, the sign convention can vary; some sources define work done by the system as negative, leading to confusion in thermodynamic discussions. The First Law of Thermodynamics can be expressed differently depending on the convention used, either as ΔU = Q - W or ΔU = Q + W. In scientific and engineering contexts, the common convention is that work done by the system is negative, reflecting energy loss. Understanding these conventions is crucial for accurate thermodynamic analysis.
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if a gas is expanding,what will be the sign of the work done by it?
 
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anigeo said:
if a gas is expanding,what will be the sign of the work done by it?
Positive, since the gas is doing positive work on the environment. The key word is 'by'. If, instead, you wanted the work done on the gas, it would be negative in the case of expansion.
 
Where a "sign convention" enters the picture is when talking simply about the work W in a thermodynamic process. For some people, books, etc., W means the work done by the system, W = PΔV, and the First Law of Thermodynamics is ΔU = Q - W. For others it means the work done on the system, W = -PΔV, and the First Law is ΔU = Q + W.
 
anigeo said:
if a gas is expanding,what will be the sign of the work done by it?

The common convention in science is that work done by the system is negative. This is understandable because work has units of energy and if a system does work he loses energy via ΔU = W = -PΔV (adiabatic process).

This is also the convention in engineering

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Engineering_Thermodynamics/First_Law
 
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