Simple calculus volumes integration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid formed by revolving the area between the curves defined by the equations y = x^2 and y^2 = x around the x-axis. Participants are exploring the integration process involved in calculating this volume, including the setup and interpretation of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines an initial approach to find the volume using the formula for the volume of revolution, but questions whether the two equations should be combined for the result.
  • Another participant clarifies that the goal is to find the volume of the object formed by revolving a 2D shape, not just the equations themselves.
  • There is a suggestion to sketch the graphs to better understand the problem and the volume being calculated.
  • A participant proposes a two-step approach to find the volumes enclosed by each curve separately and then subtract them to find the volume of the material used.
  • Some participants express frustration with the complexity of the problem and seek direct assistance in solving it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to solve the problem. There are multiple competing views on how to interpret the equations and calculate the volume, with some participants suggesting different methods and others expressing confusion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the interpretation of the curves and the specific volume being calculated. The discussion includes varying levels of understanding about the integration process and the geometric implications of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find the volume of this equation, revolved around x axis


Homework Equations


y=x^2
y^2=x

The Attempt at a Solution


1) (pi)(r^2)
2) r = x^2
3) (pi)((x^2)^2)
4) (pi)(x^4)

now to integrate

5) (pi)(1/5(x^5))

since x = 1, and 1^5=1, 1/5=1/5

pi/5?

there are two equations here (y=x^2 & y^2=x), are these two somehow combined for the result

the answer is supposed to be 3pi/10

thanks.
 
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You're not looking for the volume of the "equation", you're looking for the volume of the object that's formed when you revolve a 2-d object around the x-axis.

This may help:

http://www.wyzant.com/Help/Math/Calculus/Integration/Finding_Volume.aspx

Also, were those the actual equations given to you?

y = x^2 and y^2 = x?
 
yes the question gave me those two equations specifically. The picture of the answer shows two curves.
 
3) (pi)((x^2)^2) ?
 
((x^2)^2) = x^4?

could someone just do this, I've wracked my brain on it hard enough already.
 
Have you sketched the graphs? Are you finding the volume of material used in molding the walls of that 3D object?

Perhaps you should post the solution.
 
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question 7
 
But you've cut off that part that was going to answer my question! :cry: :cry:
 
lol sorry

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  • #10
NascentOxygen said:
Have you sketched the graphs? Are you finding the volume of material used in molding the walls of that 3D object?

Perhaps you should post the solution.
Okay, so from the solution we can see that the question does indeed require that you, for example, find the volume of clay needed to make the walls of that aforementioned jar. :cool:

Now that we all understand the question...are you right to finish it?
 
  • #11
obviously not
 
  • #12
It might be clearer if we attack this in two steps:

① Find the volume of the generated solid enclosed within the outer curve (viz., x=y²) for 0≤ x ≥1,

② Find the volume of the generated solid enclosed within the inner curve (viz., y=x²) for that same domain.

Finally, subtract these volumes to determine the difference.

The volume of the disc shown shaded in your figure is a circular-based cylinder of thickness dx. For the moment, let's forget about the hole in the disc. At any distance x, the circular face of that disc is of radius = y. Using the area of a circle formula, and the thickness of the disc, what is the expression for the volume of just that thin disc shown shaded? (No calculus is involved in answering this.)[/color]
 
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