Simple difference quotient question. Function -> simplify answer

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The discussion revolves around understanding the difference quotient and evaluating it for a specific function, particularly focusing on the function f(x) = 4 + 3x - x². Participants are trying to clarify the steps involved in finding f(3+h) and how to apply the difference quotient to find the derivative at a specific point.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are questioning the meaning of the difference quotient and how to evaluate it. There are attempts to clarify the role of the variable h and how to substitute values into the function. Some participants are exploring the concept of dummy variables in function evaluation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with several participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is a focus on understanding the evaluation of f(3+h) and the implications of the difference quotient. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and some participants are beginning to arrive at a clearer understanding of the steps involved.

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Participants express confusion regarding the evaluation of the function and the use of h in the difference quotient. There is a mention of missing information in the original problem statement, as well as a request for additional resources to aid understanding.

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Simple difference quotient question. Function --> simplify answer

Homework Statement



I just don't understand this question! Here, I will take a picture of it. Can someone please explain how I answer these? Or even show me a website that shows how to do these? Its not in my review book.

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It seems pretty straightforward what the question is asking. What specifically don't you understand?
 


Can you tell me the first step? When you look at this, what is the first thing you see/do?
 


Exactly what the problem statement says: evaluate the difference quotient. If you don't understand what that means, try looking up "difference quotient" in your book.
 


Must be missing something here.

I would plug in the f(x) values to the 2nd function, but there is no x's, just h ? How do I plug in values?
 


The problem is asking you to evaluate the difference quotient to find f'(3).
 


wow I'm lost. :(
 


Dude, f(x) = f(3+h) if x = 3+h
 


nukeman said:
wow I'm lost. :(
The difference quotient to find the derivative of a function, f'(x), looks like this:

$$ f'(x) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x + h) - f(x)}{h}$$

The difference quotient to find the derivative of a function at a specific number a, f'(a), looks like this:

$$ f'(a) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(a + h) - f(a)}{h}$$

Do you recognize that your problem is asking for f'(3)?
 
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nukeman said:

Homework Statement



I just don't understand this question! Here, I will take a picture of it. Can someone please explain how I answer these? Or even show me a website that shows how to do these? Its not in my review book.
Here's the image:

attachment.php?attachmentid=50253&d=1346172108.jpg

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So, if f(x)=4+3x-x^2\,, then what is f(3+h)\ ?
 
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SammyS said:
Here's the image:

attachment.php?attachmentid=50253&d=1346172108.jpg

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So, if f(x)=4+3x-x^2\,, then what is f(3+h)\ ?

SammyS, that is the one part I am having trouble fully understanding...
 
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It would have helped if you could have said that right from the beginning.

In f(x)=4+3x-x2, the x is what's called a dummy variable. Anything you put in the lefthand side where the x is shows up wherever the x appears on the righthand side. For example, suppose you have g(x) = 2x+4. Then
\begin{align*}
g(y) = 2y+4 \\
g(h+3) = 2(h+3)+4 \\
g(4z) = 2(4z)+4 \\
g(weasel) = 2(weasel)+4 \\
g(3) = 2(3)+4 = 10
\end{align*}
Now tell us what you think f(3+h) is equal to in your problem.
 
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nukeman said:
SammyS, that is the one part I am having trouble fully understanding...
Apparently you don't understand how to evaluate a function's formula.

If g(t) = 3 - t2 (for example)
then g(1) = 3 - (1)2 = 3 - 1 = 2
and g(5) = 3 - (5)2 = 3 - 25 = -23
and g(a + 2) = 3 - (a + 2)2

So for your function, what is f(3 + h)?
 
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"So for your function, what is f(3 + h)?"

f(3+h) = 4 + 3(3+h) - (3+h)^2 ?
 
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Yes. You'll need to expand the right side and collect common terms.
 
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Yup, that's it.
 

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