Simple Harmonic Motion Amplitude

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The discussion centers on calculating the amplitude of a simple harmonic motion problem from Marsden and Weinstein's Calculus II, specifically problem 21 b) from Section 8.1. The user derives the amplitude using the formulas A = x0 and B = v0/ω, resulting in ω = 4π, A = 1, and B = 1/4π. Upon converting to phase/magnitude form, the user calculates α = 1/4π√(16π² + 1), while the book states α = 1. The user questions the correctness of the book's answer, noting that if α = 1, it contradicts the initial conditions of the problem.

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Homework Statement
This is problem 21 b) from Section 8.1 of Marsden and Weinstein Calculus II

A mass of 1 kg is hanging from a spring. If x = 0 is the equilibrium position, and x = 1 and x' = 1 when t = 0. The wave is observed to oscillate with a frequency of twice a second. What is the amplitude of the wave?
Relevant Equations
x = Acos(wt) + Bsin(wt)
Using A = x0, B = v0

I get

ω = 4π, A = 1, B = 1/4π

then converting to phase/magnitude form

\sqrt{A^{2} + B^{^{2}}} = \alpha

\sqrt{1^{2} + \left ( \frac{1}{4\pi }\right )^{^{2}}} = \alpha = \frac{1}{4\pi }\sqrt{16\pi^{2} +1}

However the answer in the back of the book has

α = 1

Is the answer in the back of the book incorrect? If the books answer is correct, could someone please point out my mistake?
 
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Teclis said:
Homework Statement:: This is problem 21 b) from Section 8.1 of Marsden and Weinstein Calculus II

A mass of 1 kg is hanging from a spring. If x = 0 is the equilibrium position, and x = 1 and x' = 1 when t = 0. The wave is observed to oscillate with a frequency of twice a second. What is the amplitude of the wave?
Homework Equations:: x = Acos(wt) + Bsin(wt)

Using A = x0, B = v0

I get

ω = 4π, A = 1, B = 1/4π

then converting to phase/magnitude form

\sqrt{A^{2} + B^{^{2}}} = \alpha

\sqrt{1^{2} + \left ( \frac{1}{4\pi }\right )^{^{2}}} = \alpha = \frac{1}{4\pi }\sqrt{16\pi^{2} +1}

However the answer in the back of the book has

α = 1

Is the answer in the back of the book incorrect? If the books answer is correct, could someone please point out my mistake?

If ##\alpha = 1## means that the amplitude is ##1## unit, then at ##t=0## the spring would be at its maximum displacement (##x(0) = 1## unit). That contradicts ##x'(0) \ne 0##.

I get what you get.
 
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