Simple harmonic motion (doubt in the derivation of equation)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the derivation of the equation for simple harmonic motion, specifically focusing on the relationship between acceleration, spring constant, and mass. Participants explore the definition of angular frequency and its derivation from the governing differential equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of defining ω² = k/m, asking if it is a random assumption or has a basis.
  • Another participant suggests that this definition arises from prior knowledge of the solution to the differential equation, indicating that the angular frequency is derived from the sinusoidal nature of the solution.
  • Some participants express confusion about how to derive the angular frequency from the differential equation of motion, specifically ma = -kx.
  • A later reply suggests that solving the differential equation is necessary to find the angular frequency, referencing an external source for further information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the derivation of angular frequency, with some confusion remaining about the process. No consensus is reached on the clarity of the definition or the derivation method.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights a reliance on prior knowledge of solutions to differential equations and the assumptions made in defining angular frequency. There are unresolved questions about the derivation process and the clarity of the definitions used.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals seeking clarification on the concepts of simple harmonic motion, differential equations, and the derivation of angular frequency.

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F=-kx when talking about a mass at the end of a horizontal spring
therefore ma=-kx
rearranging we get a= -(k/m)x
then it says if we define ω2=k/m we then have a generic form :
a= -ω2x
My question is what does "if we define ω2=k/m" mean? where does this come from?is it just any random assumption?
 
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kandyfloss said:
My question is what does "if we define ω2=k/m" mean? where does this come from?is it just any random assumption?
They define it that way because they already know the answer. The solution to the differential equation ma=-kx (or m d2x/dt2 = -kx) will be a sinusoidal function with an angular frequency given by ω = √(k/m).
 
I didn't get it.How do you find the angular frequency from the sinusoidal function of ma=-kx (or m d2x/dt2 = -kx ?
 
aah! great stuff,thanx.
 

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