Simple harmonic motion,the restoring force?

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The discussion centers on the nature of the restoring force in simple harmonic motion (SHM), particularly at the extreme positions of oscillation. Participants explore the relationship between the restoring force and the initial force imparted, the symmetry of displacement, and the energy transformations involved in the motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the magnitude of the restoring force at the extreme position is greater than, less than, or equal to the initial force imparted.
  • One participant notes that the answer depends on the specific setup and the initial force applied.
  • Another participant raises the question of why the displacement on either side of the mean position is the same.
  • It is suggested that in a symmetric setup, the equality of displacement follows from symmetry and energy conservation principles.
  • A participant describes a conceptual model where kinetic energy is converted to potential energy, with the restoring force acting to bring the mass back to the mean position, leading to overshooting due to momentum.
  • Another participant affirms that in SHM, potential energy and kinetic energy are exchanged while the total mechanical energy remains constant, assuming no damping or energy loss.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the restoring force and the initial force, as well as the mechanics of energy transformation in SHM. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of these relationships.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully agree on the definitions of the initial force or the implications of energy conservation in SHM, indicating potential limitations in their assumptions and definitions.

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at the extreme position, the restoring force that developed, is it's magnitude more than the initial force imparted? and that's why it goes back to the mean position or is it that, the magnitude is same and it just goes back to attain stable equilibrium?.
 
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at the extreme position, the restoring force that developed, is it's magnitude more than the initial force imparted?
Which "initial force imparted"?
It depends on your setup, in particular on your initial force.
 
the question should be I think,
that how is it that the displacement on either side of the mean position is same?
 
In a symmetric setup (and a harmonic potential is symmetric), it follows from symmetry and energy conservation.
 
And if we were to understand how the mechanics of it actually works.
can it be that at the initial state, kinetic energy is imparted by a force, now this momentum is opposed by a restoring force which keeps on decreasing the momentum till the body comes to a rest state, here the kinetic energy is completely changed into potential energy, now this restoring force makes the body go to it's mean position, now here again it over shoots because of the momentum and the same cycle is repeated?
 
Yes, in simple harmonic motion (with no damping or energy leakage) PE and KE are exchanged as the mass oscillates about the equilibrium point. The total mechanical energy remains constant.
 

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