Simple time-independent non-degenerate quantum perturbation

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The discussion revolves around time-independent non-degenerate quantum perturbation theory, specifically focusing on equations from a provided PDF. Participants express confusion regarding the derivation and interpretation of certain equations related to second-order energy corrections and the expansion of eigenstates.

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  • Participants question the steps leading to the summation in the second-order energy correction equation and express uncertainty about omitted steps in the derivation. Some explore the implications of inner product terms being zero and the significance of expanding eigenstates in terms of unperturbed eigenstates.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships and assumptions underlying the equations. Some participants have offered insights into the expansion of eigenstates and the implications of certain terms being zero, which has helped clarify aspects of the discussion.

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Participants note potential typos in the original document and discuss the constraints of the equations being analyzed, particularly regarding the indices used in summations and the assumptions about the eigenstates involved.

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I'm reading through this pdf (http://www.pa.msu.edu/~mmoore/TIPT.pdf) on simple quantum perturbation theory and I'm quite confused with equations 32 through 34.

They have E_{n}^{(2)} = <n^{(0)}|V|n^{(1)}> = - \sum_{m \neq 0}{\frac{|V_{mn}|^{2}}{E_{mn}}} but I would have done E_{n}^{(2)} = <n^{(0)}|V|n^{(1)}> - <n^{(0)}|E_{n}^{(1)}|n^{(1)}> and then plugged in E_{n}^{(1)} = V_{nn} from their earlier solution for first order terms. I don't know where I would have gone form there and I certainly couldn't even take a gander at how they end up with a summation either in this equation or in equations 33 and 34. Are there steps being omitted and/or can this be explained conceptually?

I have similar complaints about equations 33 and 34, though in equation 34 I have the first right hand side they end up with, but then again I have no idea about the summation that suddenly appears in the final answer. What am I overlooking/not thinking about?
 
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Looking at Equation (24),
<br /> \left\langle n^{(0)} \right.\left|n^{(1)}\right\rangle = -\frac{1}{2} \sum_{k=1}^{1-1}\left\langle n^{(1-k)}\right.\left| n^{(k)}\right\rangle = 0<br />
so the \left\langle n^{(0)} \right.\left|n^{(1)}\right\rangle term in what you wrote is zero.
 
dydxforsn said:
They have E_{n}^{(2)} = &lt;n^{(0)}|V|n^{(1)}&gt; = - \sum_{m \neq 0}{\frac{|V_{mn}|^{2}}{E_{mn}}}

The pdf document has a small typo in that the summation index should have m ≠ n rather than m ≠ 0

but I would have done E_{n}^{(2)} = &lt;n^{(0)}|V|n^{(1)}&gt; - &lt;n^{(0)}|E_{n}^{(1)}|n^{(1)}&gt; and then plugged in E_{n}^{(1)} = V_{nn} from their earlier solution for first order terms.

See if you can show the last term on the right is zero using equation (31).

I don't know where I would have gone form there and I certainly couldn't even take a gander at how they end up with a summation either in this equation or in equations 33 and 34. Are there steps being omitted and/or can this be explained conceptually?

Note that any vector can be expanded in the basis set ##\{|m^{(0)}>\}##. So, in particular the vector ##|n^{(1)}>## can be expanded as ##|n^{(1)}> =\displaystyle \sum\limits_{m \neq n}{c_m|m^{(0)}>}##. Equation (31) allows the sum to be restricted to m≠n.

Now use equation (30) to identify the constants ##c_m##. See what you get if you substitute this expansion of ##|n^{(1)}>## into ##E_{n}^{(2)} = <n^{(0)}|V|n^{(1)}>##
 
He skipped a couple of steps. Equations 30 and 31 are
\begin{align*}
\langle m^{(0)} | n^{(1)} \rangle &= -\frac{V_{mn}}{E_{mn}} \\
\langle n^{(0)} | n^{(1)} \rangle &= 0
\end{align*} If you expand ##\lvert n^{(1)} \rangle## in terms of the eigenstates of the unperturbed Hamiltonian, you get
$$\lvert n^{(1)} \rangle = \sum_{m} \lvert m^{(0)} \rangle\langle m^{(0)} \lvert n^{(1)} \rangle.$$ Using equations 30 and 31, you end up with
$$\lvert n^{(1)} \rangle = \sum_{m \ne n} -\frac{V_{mn}}{E_{mn}}\lvert m^{(0)} \rangle.$$ When you plug this into the first line of equation 32, you get the second line.
 
Ok, that definitely cleared everything up. Thank you for everything, I especially wouldn't have guessed that they were expanding corrections to the eigenstates in terms of unperturbed eigenstates. Wow, you'd think that would have been a part of the derivations they would have spent more than nothing on...

The nuances are beginning to make sense..
 

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