Simplifying a resistor network using pi-T (Y-delta) conversion

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The discussion revolves around simplifying a resistor network using pi-T (Y-delta) conversion. Participants are tasked with reducing the network to a single equivalent resistor while navigating the complexities of series and parallel combinations.

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  • Participants explore the application of series and parallel resistor formulas, as well as the pi-T conversion method. There is a focus on identifying how resistors are connected and simplifying the circuit step-by-step. Questions arise regarding the configuration of R5 and its impact on the overall resistance.

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Some participants have offered insights into the simplification process, including the treatment of certain resistors as having negligible resistance. Multiple interpretations of the circuit configuration are being explored, and while some calculations have been presented, there is no explicit consensus on the final equivalent resistance.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions related to the connections and values of the resistors involved.

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Homework Statement



Reduce the resistor network to a single resistor. Go step-by-step and indicate the series or parallel combinations being reduced.

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Homework Equations



For series resistors: R_T=R_1+R_2+R_3+\cdot \cdot \cdot +R_N
For parallel resistors: R_T=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{R_1}+\frac{1}{R_2}+\frac{1}{R_3}+\cdot \cdot \cdot +\frac{1}{R_N}}

∏-T Conversion:
R_1=\frac{R_BR_C}{R_A+R_B+R_C}
R_2=\frac{R_AR_C}{R_A+R_B+R_C}
R_3=\frac{R_AR_B}{R_A+R_B+R_C}

The Attempt at a Solution



The first thing I noticed is that RA, RB, and RC are not in series and they're not in parallel. This led me to the ∏-T (Y-Δ) conversion. After the conversion, I was able to make further simplifications in steps (2) and (3).

In step (4), I get stuck because I don't know how to simplify the circuit given the way R5 is hooked up. Any pointers?
 
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My thinking, assuming I drew everything correctly, is that R5 gets bypassed because a practically resistance-free path exists (the wire on the left-leg of the triangle above R5).

Therefore the equivalent resistance would be:

Req=R3+R2||(R1+R4) = 10.57Ω + 58.92Ω ≈ 69.5Ω

Does this make sense?
 
Yes. You can also think of the wire as a 0-ohm resistor and use the parallel resistor formula.
 
I guess cable across Rc and R4
So mark all the points as zero voltage.
Now we have a parallel circuit of
1. Ra-150Ω
2. Series of Rb and parallel resistors of Rc and R4-129Ω

Equivalent resistance=69.35Ω
 
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lewando said:
...you can also think of the wire as a 0-ohm resistor and use the parallel resistor formula.

This makes sense.

So, R_T=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{\sim 0 \Omega }+\frac{1}{220\Omega }}\approx 0 \Omega

Thanks lewando.
 
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