Wheatstone Bridge: Substitution Resistance Formula Derivation?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the substitution resistance formula in the context of a Wheatstone bridge circuit. Participants explore the conditions under which the galvanometer can be omitted and the implications of different resistance configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a method for finding substitution resistance based on the cross products of resistances in the Wheatstone bridge.
  • Another participant suggests that a web search for "Delta Wye Transform derivation" may provide useful information for the derivation needed.
  • There is a request for clarification on the derivation of the first formula (referred to as "formula a").
  • A participant notes that the omission of the galvanometer (R5) is valid if there is no current flow through it, which occurs when the voltages at either end of R5 are equal, leading to the condition R1/R4 = R2/R3.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the derivation of the substitution resistance formula, with some suggesting that it can be derived while others seek clarification on specific aspects. There is no consensus on the derivation process itself.

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Participants reference specific conditions under which the galvanometer can be omitted, but the discussion does not resolve the derivation of the formulas or clarify all assumptions involved.

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Hello,

In high school, I had been taught about finding substitution resistance from Wheatstone bridge.

The formula:

a. If the cross product of ##R1## and ##R3## is same as ##R2## and ##R4##, the galvanometer in the middle (##R_5##) can be omitted and use series-parallel principle to solve for the substitution resistance.
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b. If instead the cross products are different, modify the circuit to the following diagram below,
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and determine new resistances (##R_a##, ##R_b##, & ##R_c##) by:

$$\begin{align}
R_a &= \frac {R_1 \cdot R_2} {R_1 + R_2 + R_5} \nonumber \\
R_b &= \frac {R_1 \cdot R_5} {R_1 + R_2 + R_5} \nonumber \\
R_c &= \frac {R_2 \cdot R_5} {R_1 + R_2 + R_5} \nonumber
\end{align}$$
Then, use new resistance to solve for substitution resistance.

However, there isn't any explanation or derivation of the formula AFAIK (even on my textbook).

So what derivation that lead me to the formulas above?

Bagas
 
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A web search for "Delta Wye Transform derivation" will turn up what you need.
 
But what about derivation of formula a. ?
 
bagasme said:
But what about derivation of formula a. ?
I'm not sure what you mean. What is "formula a"?

There are examples of the derivation of the transformations on the web that can be readily found.
 
'a' can probably be derived, but (by inspection):

R5 may be omitted from the analysis if there is no current flow through it - it isn't 'doing' anything
there is no current flow through R5 if (and only if) the voltages at either end of R5 are equal
the voltages are equal when R1/R4 = R2/R3 (or R1R3 = R2R4)
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