Simplifying Expression using Logarithms
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The discussion revolves around simplifying logarithmic expressions using relevant logarithmic rules. Participants are exploring various approaches to simplify an expression involving logarithms, including the use of properties such as the product, quotient, and power rules of logarithms.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation
Approaches and Questions Raised
- Participants express uncertainty about how to begin simplifying logarithmic expressions. Some share their attempts at applying logarithmic rules, while others seek clarification on specific steps and the rationale behind them.
Discussion Status
There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with some participants providing guidance on logarithmic rules. Multiple interpretations of the simplification process are being explored, and participants are encouraged to articulate their reasoning and questions as they work through the problem.
Contextual Notes
Some participants mention confusion regarding specific values and simplifications, indicating a need for further clarification on the application of logarithmic properties. There are also references to homework constraints and the expectation of independent problem-solving.
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jahaddow said:Simplify the attached expression using any relevant logarithmic rules
I haven't really done much with logarithms, so i didnt know where to start?
Given problem can be written as
log(2)4 + log(16)1/4 + log(1/4)2 - log(7/4)
Now use laws of logarithm to simplify.
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jahaddow said:the problem is I don't know how to do that?
log(a) + log(b) = log(ab)
log(a) - log(b) = log(a/b)
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jahaddow said:Simplify the attached expression using any relevant logarithmic rules
I haven't really done much with logarithms, so i didnt know where to start?
Then you should start by learning the "relevant logarithmic rules"!jahaddow said:the problem is I don't know how to do that?
[itex]log(ab)= log(a)+ log(b)[/itex]
[itex]log(a/b)= log(a)- lob(b)[/itex]
[itex]log(a^b)= b log(a)[/itex]
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jahaddow said:well that would be log(ab)
Follow your own advice.
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jahaddow said:I don't know how to!
OK.
What is 24, 161/4 and 42?
Substitute these values in my post #2 and simplify by using the relevant equation given by us.
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jahaddow said:Or would it be 12logx? I don't know.
Your answer for the first problem is correct. But write it as a single number, not in the form of a fraction.
In the second problem from where did you get log(x) along with 12?
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jahaddow said:The second problem, I worked out to be just 12 now. But the first problem, 2/1.75 equals a long decimal, so wouldn't I just leave it as a fraction?
In that case you can write it as 8/7
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(18x^3 X 2x^-4)/(4x^-5 X 6x)
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jahaddow said:just one more question, how do I simplify this and express with positive indices.
(18x^3 X 2x^-4)/(4x^-5 X 6x)
[tex]\frac{36x^3}{x^4}\times\frac{24x}{x^5}[/tex]
Now simplify.
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= [tex]\frac{4\times3\log{x}}{\log{x}}[/tex]xX-Cyanide-Xx said:could someone plese show a bit more detail with the second problem, where did 12 come from.
Now siplify.
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Sorry I am really bad at this.
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xX-Cyanide-Xx said:I missed the step before that. wheres the 3 come from?
Sorry I am really bad at this.
[tex]\frac{1}{\frac{1}{3}\log{x}} = \frac{3}{\log{x}}[/tex]
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