Small LED Thermometer - Beginner Electronics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a small LED thermometer that changes color based on temperature readings. Participants explore various methods and components that could be used to achieve this, focusing on the technical aspects of electronics and circuit design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the definition of "extremely small scale," suggesting sizes like centimeter or millimeter.
  • Another participant notes that achieving a simple color change with temperature is easy, but switching between distinct colors (e.g., red to green) within a narrow temperature range may require additional logic, such as a comparator.
  • Some participants mention that LEDs have fixed colors and propose using multiple LEDs to create a range of colors by controlling their current.
  • There is a suggestion that LED packages with two colors could be used, allowing for variable color mixing by adjusting voltage.
  • One participant proposes using a single transistor to drive a two-color LED based on the thermometer's output, while another emphasizes the need to specify what the thermometer outputs.
  • Pulse width modulation is mentioned as a method to control LED intensity and achieve a wider range of colors.
  • A participant raises concerns about the lack of information regarding the thermometer's specifications, limiting the ability to propose suitable circuits.
  • There is a light-hearted comment about the original poster potentially feeling overwhelmed by the responses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints and suggestions, but there is no consensus on the specifics of the thermometer or the best approach to implement the color-changing LED feature. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact requirements and specifications needed for the project.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the thermometer's output and the specific components required for the project. Participants emphasize the need for more information to provide useful suggestions.

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Hi, I'm a freshman in college and a beginner in electronics. Does anyone know of a way to use a micro analog thermometer to change the color of a small LED light once it hits a certain temperature. I am looking to make this on an extremely small scale.
 
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What is an extremely small scale? Centimeter? Millimeter?

How large can the transition region be? Just getting some color change depending on temperature is very easy, switching from "pure red" to "pure green" (as an example) within 1K will need more logic (probably something like a comparator).
Note that LEDs have a fixed color, changing the apparent color will need two different LEDs and some control over their current.
 
mfb said:
What is an extremely small scale? Centimeter? Millimeter?

How large can the transition region be? Just getting some color change depending on temperature is very easy, switching from "pure red" to "pure green" (as an example) within 1K will need more logic (probably something like a comparator).
Note that LEDs have a fixed color, changing the apparent color will need two different LEDs and some control over their current.
I seem to remember that you could buy LED packages with two colours in them. You can produce an infinitely variable set of intermediate colours between the Red and Green of the diodes taken singly by varying the voltage supplied, iirc. Actually, I now remember I have two such indicators on the regulator for a Rutland 12v Wind Generator.

I should think that it would not be hard to drive a two colour LED, using a single transistor as an interface with the output of the thermometer. But you would need to specify what the thermometer actually outputs.
 
sophiecentaur said:
I seem to remember that you could buy LED packages with two colours in them
And probably 3 or 4 pins, which just means there are two different LEDs inside.
I should think that it would not be hard to drive a two colour LED, using a single transistor as an interface with the output of the thermometer.
That would give a slow transition over a large temperature range.
But you would need to specify what the thermometer actually outputs.
I guess it is just a variable resistor.
 
mfb said:
And probably 3 or 4 pins, which just means there are two different LEDs inside.
That would give a slow transition over a large temperature range.
I guess it is just a variable resistor.

One package is aesthetically more pleasing ('colour mixing' built in and looks 'modern') and uses just one hole in a panel.

Could well be - but we'd need to know.
 
sophiecentaur said:
One package is aesthetically more pleasing ('colour mixing' built in and looks 'modern') and uses just one hole in a panel.

Could well be - but we'd need to know.
Use pulse width modulation to drive either of the LED's or both, and one can get a whole range of colors. Vary the voltage for the intensity.
 
mfb said:
What is an extremely small scale? Centimeter? Millimeter?

How large can the transition region be? Just getting some color change depending on temperature is very easy, switching from "pure red" to "pure green" (as an example) within 1K will need more logic (probably something like a comparator).
Note that LEDs have a fixed color, changing the apparent color will need two different LEDs and some control over their current.
A circuit utilizing a schmitt trigger might be what is needed, but still it, is a comparator circuit.
 
Unfortunately, as we don't know what this 'thermometer' consists of we cannot usefully speculate about suitable circuits - only the possibilities for displays.
The OP seems to have run away in panic at our responses. :))
 

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