Smallest set of fundamental physical constants?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of identifying the smallest set of fundamental physical constants from which all other constants of nature can be derived. Participants explore the implications of changing these constants and consider different levels of fundamental constants, particularly in the context of astrophysics and particle physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant references a claim by astrophysicist Jens Martin Knudsen regarding seven fundamental constants that, if altered, could drastically change the universe.
  • Another participant suggests that a sensible set of constants might include the speed of light in vacuum, Planck's constant, and Newton's gravitational constant.
  • There is a discussion about whether there exists a collection of independent constants from which all others can be calculated, particularly at a level above fundamental particle physics.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the specific constants JMK referred to, noting the lack of clarity regarding his statements and background in particle physics.
  • Participants acknowledge the existence of a list of 26 constants considered fundamental in particle physics, but question the applicability of this list to broader contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific constants that should be included in the smallest set, and there is uncertainty regarding JMK's claims and their implications.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the context of JMK's statements, including the lack of specific details about the constants he mentioned and the year of his remarks.

PeetH
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Hi, everyone.

I once saw a science program with the danish astrophycisist Jens Martin Knudsen, who said that there exists seven absolutely fundamental constants of nature, and if one of these were changed ever so slightly, it would lead to drastic changes in the whole universe. So my question is: what is the smallest set of physical constants, by which all other contants of nature, in principle, can be derived? How many are needed? I know the set is probably not unique, but a sensible set then. I guess three of them would be the speed of light in vacuum, Plancks constant and Newtons gravitational constant.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Hi DaleSpam, thanks for the link. Very interesting page. I guess these 26 constants are the most fundamental if we look so deep into the fundamentals of particle physics. So I surely got, what I asked for :-).

But if we lift us up, just above this very deep level, where Plancks constant, speed of light etc. is considered as universal constants, is there a similar collection of independent constants, from which you could calculate all others.

I'm quite sure JMK said 6 or 7 such constants, but unfortunately without specifing which. What could he had ment? He was primarily an astrophycisist, so he was probably not that deeply immersed into the field of particle physics.
 
PeetH said:
I'm quite sure JMK said 6 or 7 such constants, but unfortunately without specifing which. What could he had ment? He was primarily an astrophycisist, so he was probably not that deeply immersed into the field of particle physics.

It's tough to say, since we don't know what he said, what he meant, or when he said it (which year).

I would link to exactly the same page as in post #2 above, but DaleSpam had already done it :smile:.
 

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