Smeared quantum fields in everyday QFT

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The discussion revolves around the use of "smeared" quantum fields in algebraic quantum field theory (AQFT) versus traditional spacetime-dependent field operators. Participants explore the reasons for the preference of one formalism over the other, addressing issues of rigor, operational simplicity, and the implications for calculations in quantum field theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the spacetime-dependent formalism is widely used despite the potential issues with ill-defined expressions, suggesting several possible reasons including operational simplicity and the effectiveness of renormalization.
  • Another participant agrees that the smeared version is primarily needed for rigor, noting that field operators are distributions and their values at specific points are typically not defined.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the lack of references to scattering amplitudes or path integrals in AQFT literature, indicating a desire for clarity on how scattering processes are derived within this framework.
  • One reply introduces Haag-Ruelle theory as a rigorous approach to quantum field scattering, but notes its limitations in applying directly to gauge theories like QED and QCD, which are not covered by the Wightman axioms.
  • It is mentioned that AQFT provides insights into the mathematical structure of quantum field theories, complementing the more computational approach found in standard QFT textbooks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and utility of the smeared formalism versus the spacetime-dependent approach. There is no consensus on the best approach, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of each formalism for practical calculations and theoretical rigor.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the application of AQFT to certain gauge theories and the ongoing challenges in rigorously defining these theories within the framework of the Wightman axioms.

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"Smeared" quantum fields in everyday QFT

Hello everyone. I have a question regarding algebraic QFT. I read that, in order to avoid ill-defined, divergent expressions like the mode expansions for spacetime-dependent field operators φ(x), one starts from the (Wightman?) axioms, using operator-valued distribution on compact support functions, φ(f), instead. Formally this is achieved by integrating the product f(x)φ(x) which results in a smearing that encodes the uncertainty in spacetime position. This is, I think, to avoid having arbitrairly high frequency modes in the mode expansion in terms of annihilation-creation operators.

The question is: why many people use the spacetime-dependence formalism anyway? Is that because:

1) it's operationally simpler
2) experiments give extremely accurate results anyway
3) renormalization takes care of every divergence
4a) phycisists don't bother that much with quantum fields being well-defined, or
4b) the φ(x) formalism is actually well-defined, and AQFT just wants to better formalize the theory

? I'm confused, because I rarely see people using the algebraic formalism.
 
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rubbergnome said:
Hello everyone. I have a question regarding algebraic QFT. I read that, in order to avoid ill-defined, divergent expressions like the mode expansions for spacetime-dependent field operators φ(x), one starts from the (Wightman?) axioms, using operator-valued distribution on compact support functions, φ(f), instead. Formally this is achieved by integrating the product f(x)φ(x) which results in a smearing that encodes the uncertainty in spacetime position. This is, I think, to avoid having arbitrairly high frequency modes in the mode expansion in terms of annihilation-creation operators.

The question is: why many people use the spacetime-dependence formalism anyway? Is that because:

1) it's operationally simpler
2) experiments give extremely accurate results anyway
3) renormalization takes care of every divergence
4a) phycisists don't bother that much with quantum fields being well-defined, or
4b) the φ(x) formalism is actually well-defined, and AQFT just wants to better formalize the theory

? I'm confused, because I rarely see people using the algebraic formalism.

All of 1) through 4a). The smeared version is needed only when you want to impose some rigor on what is done, as the field operators are distributions only, so its value at a spacetime point is typically not defined. But the extra baggage in the formulas is of no significant help in actual computations, so most people avoid it.
 


Thanks a lot. I have many doubts about this, especially since I read papers in which the main objects of the theory where nets of Von Neumann algebras, and there was no reference at things like scattering amplitudes or path integrals to study processes, only observables. I mean, maybe one can derive scattering in AQFT, but I didn't found anything.
 


rubbergnome said:
Thanks a lot. I have many doubts about this, especially since I read papers in which the main objects of the theory where nets of Von Neumann algebras, and there was no reference at things like scattering amplitudes or path integrals to study processes, only observables. I mean, maybe one can derive scattering in AQFT, but I didn't found anything.

The buzzword here is Haag-Ruelle theory. This is quantum field scattering done rigorously.

The problem is that it doesn't apply directly to QED or QCD as these are gauge theories not covered by the Wightman axioms. And it is not known how to modify the latter to make these theories fit rigorously. (Doing it for QCD without quarks is the essence of one of the Clay millenium problems, whose solution is each worth a million dollars.)

On the other hand, AQFT gives a lot of insight into the mathematical structure of QFTs.
Thus it complements the ''shut up and calculate'' approach that most QFT textbooks follow.
 

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