Solid pulley & mass on an inclined plane

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The discussion centers on solving a physics problem involving a solid pulley and a mass on an inclined plane. The user derived the tension in the system using torque and force equations, ultimately finding the coefficient of friction (μ) to be 0.36. They noted that the radius of the cylinder did not affect their calculations as it canceled out in the equations. Another participant confirmed the calculations and demonstrated an alternative solution using energy conservation, which also yielded the same coefficient of friction. The inclusion of the radius was suggested to provide an option for solving the problem differently.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



T=Iα, F=ma, I=0.5*m*r^2, Friction=u*N

The Attempt at a Solution



I used the torque equation to get Tension = mcylinder*a/2, and then plugged that into a force equation for the block.

mblockgsin(30)-Tension-Friction=mblock*a

so

mblockgsin(30)-mcylinder*a/2-μmblockgcos(30)=mblock*a

I ended up with μ=0.36. Just wanted to check my answer because I never ended up using the radius of the cylinder (it canceled out), so I was wondering why it was given.
 

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I agree with you.

I agree with you. The torque on the pulley is supplied by the tension, so
\tau = T \times R_{pulley}.​
A point along the circumference must have a linear acceleration equal to the acceleration of the block, so
\alpha_{pulley} R_{pulley} = a_{block}.​
And the moment of inertia for a solid cylinder is
I=\frac12 MR^2​
So
\tau = I\alpha = \left(\frac12 M R^2\right)\left(\frac a R\right) = T \times R.​
If we solve for the tension, all the R's indeed drop out:
T=\frac12 M a,​
exactly like you found.
 
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Yup. I just did this problem again using energy conservation - if the acceleration is 1.6 m/s^2, then in 1 second the block gains 1.6m/s of speed and travels 0.8m while the pulley attains an angular speed of 32 rad/s. Energy conservation gives me the same answer for u so maybe that's why the radius was given, in case you wanted to solve it that way.

Thanks.
 
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