Solve 1-D Motion Problems: Homework Statement

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The discussion revolves around solving a series of 1-D motion problems involving a ball launched upwards and dropped from a height. For the upward motion, the time to reach 15.0 m is calculated using the quadratic equation, yielding two solutions: approximately 0.990 s on the way up and 3.09 s on the way down. The height of a ball dropped from 100.0 m after 3.0 s is determined to be 55.9 m, while its velocity at that time is calculated to be 29.4 m/s. Participants emphasize the importance of using the quadratic formula correctly rather than taking derivatives in this context. The discussion also highlights the use of LaTeX for clearer mathematical representation.
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Homework Statement


a. If a ball is launched straight upwards from the ground with an initial velocity of 20.0 m/s, how long does the ball take to reach a height of 15.0 m on the way up?

b. For the same situation, at what time does the ball reach 15.0 m on the way back down?

c. If a ball is dropped from a height of 100.0 m, what is it's height above the ground (in meters) after 3.0 s?

d. If a ball is dropped from a height of 100.0 m, what is it's velocity (in m/s) after 3.00 s? You may treat downward velocity as positive.

Homework Equations


Vx = V0x + axt
x= x0 +v0xt + 1/2axt^2

The Attempt at a Solution


a. 15 = 20t - 4.9t^2
I took the derivative of my equation.
15 = 20 - 9.8t
t = 0.510 s

b. 0 = 20t - 4.9t^2
I assume the height from problem a cancels out with problem b giving 0 and I also took the derivative of equation.
0 = 20 - 9.8t
t= 2.04 s

c. x = 100 - 4.9t^2
Plug in 3.0 s for t.
x = 55.9 m

d. Vx = 9.8 x 3.0 = 29.4 m/s
 
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Hi Tchao and welcome to PF.

Tchao said:
I took the derivative of my equation.
Why? Just solve the quadratic and you will get two solutions. What is the meaning of each solution?

On edit: The derivative of 15 with respect to time is not 15.
 
So, I get 3.09 s and 0.990 s when solving using the quadratic equation.
The 0.990 s would be the solution to problem A and the 3.09 s would be the solution to problem.
 
Tchao said:
So, I get 3.09 s and 0.990 s when solving using the quadratic equation.
The 0.990 s would be the solution to problem A and the 3.09 s would be the solution to problem.
Correct. The two solutions are the two times when the ball is at height 15 m. The last two parts look fine.
 
Tchao said:

The Attempt at a Solution


a. 15 = 20t - 4.9t^2
I took the derivative of my equation.
15 = 20 - 9.8t
t = 0.510 s

You cannot take the derivative here, because that is an equation for specific values of ##t##.

For example, how long does it take to go ##5m## at ##2m/s##?

You get the equation (1) ##2t = 5## hence ##t = 2.5s##

But, if you differentiate that equation (1), you get the nonsensical ##2 = 0##.

You can only differentiate something that is an equation for all ##t##. For example: ##s = ut + 0.5 at^2## is an equation that holds for all ##t##, where ##u, a## are constants and ##s## is, therefore, a function of ##t##.

Differentiating that equation gives ##v = \frac{ds}{dt} = u + at##, which is then valid for all ##t## and is, as you may recognise, another equation of motion.
 
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The only thing left to say is puhlease use BBcode and/or LaTex, both of which are built right into the editor, are very easy to use, and the links to the guides are right under the input box, on the left.
 
hmmm27 said:
The only thing left to say is puhlease use BBcode and/or LaTex, both of which are built right into the editor, are very easy to use, and the links to the guides are right under the input box, on the left.
Being a first time user, OP may not be familiar with these niceties.
 
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kuruman said:
Being a first time user, OP may not be familiar with these niceties.
True, just pointing them out : rather new myself - it's great watching what would normally be indecipherable ascii scribbles turn into textbook-ready formulas.
 
For this example

x= x0 +v0xt + 1/2axt^2
turns into
$$d_t=d_0+v_0t+\frac{1}{2}at^2$$
 
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