Solve Algebraic Question: Maximum Garden Area w/ 150ft Fence

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The discussion revolves around solving an algebraic problem related to maximizing the area of a rectangular garden that is to be fenced with a total of 150 feet of fencing material, accounting for a 10-foot entrance. Participants are exploring the dimensions that would yield the maximum area, with a focus on the mathematical reasoning behind the solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for help in determining the dimensions of the garden for maximum area, specifying that the answer should be in vertex form.
  • Another participant suggests breaking down the problem into steps, including calculating the effective perimeter after accounting for the entrance.
  • A later post questions whether knowledge of the shape that maximizes area is sufficient or if calculus must be used to demonstrate it.
  • One participant claims that the dimensions yielding maximum area are three sides of 40 feet and one side of 30 feet, resulting in an area of 1600 square units.
  • Some participants argue that calculus is not necessary to determine the maximum area, stating that a square provides the largest area for a given perimeter, while rectangles with the same perimeter would yield smaller areas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether calculus is required to solve the problem, as some participants assert that it is not necessary, while others question the need for a formal proof. The dimensions proposed for maximum area also remain a point of contention.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding the perimeter calculation, nor have they clarified the mathematical steps leading to the proposed dimensions. The discussion includes varying levels of mathematical rigor and reasoning.

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Hi everyone, I am new to this site. I was wondering if anyone here can help me answer a question, in order for me to study correctly for my math test tomorrow.

Here's the question:

Melissa plans to put a fence around her rectangular garden. She has 150 feet of fencing material to make the fence. If there is to be a 10 foot opening left for an entrance on one side of the garden, what dimensions should the garden be for maximum area? This question has to be answered in vertex form.

If anyone can answer this and explain it step by step to me that would be great!:smile:
 
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You should fill in the details by answering the following:
(1)Fence and opening = ?
(2)What shape rectangle is maximum area for given perimeter?
(3)Using (1) and (2), what is length of side.?
 
mathman said:
You should fill in the details by answering the following:
(1)Fence and opening = ?
(2)What shape rectangle is maximum area for given perimeter?
(3)Using (1) and (2), what is length of side.?

but are you allowed to just know what shape of rectangle maximises area? or do you have to show it using calculus

anyway some clues

what is the total perimeter, given the 150 feet of fencing and the 10 feet of gap?

edit: whoops. i mean, ahem, is this number divisible by 4
 
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Its late and i gtg, so ill post explanation tomoro, but it is, 3 sides are 40, and the side with the 10 gap is 30. getting you 1600 square units.
 
but are you allowed to just know what shape of rectangle maximises area? or do you have to show it using calculus

You don't need calculus. Area of square, side x is x2. Rectangle with same perimeter (not square) would have area (x+a)(x-a), which is obviously smaller.
 
mathman said:
You don't need calculus. Area of square, side x is x2. Rectangle with same perimeter (not square) would have area (x+a)(x-a), which is obviously smaller.
oh yeah, duh. you get used to general methods and forget the obv
 

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