Solve Balloon Height: Buoyancy & Weight Problem

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The problem involves a helium-filled balloon tied to a string, where the goal is to determine the length of string that is lifted when the balloon reaches equilibrium. The subject area includes concepts of buoyancy, weight, and equilibrium in fluid mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between buoyant force and the weight of the string, with one suggesting to think of height in terms of the weight of the string rather than altitude. Others explore using force differences to determine how much mass is lifted and how it relates to the height lifted.

Discussion Status

Some participants have shared calculations and reasoning, with one noting they arrived at the same answer as the professor but are uncertain if their process was correct. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between buoyancy and weight, particularly in the context of equilibrium.

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Participants are considering the effects of different forces at play and the implications of equilibrium. There is mention of varying time zones affecting response times in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



A helium filled balloon is tied to a 2.00-m-long, 0.050 0-kg uniform string. The balloon is spherical with a radius of 0.400 m. When released, it lifts a length h of string and then remains in equilibrium as shown in figure P14.51. Determine the value of h. The envelope of the balloon has a mass of 0.250 kg.

Homework Equations



Code:
ρ=  m⁄v

v=  4/3 pi r^3

B=ρ[SUB]air[/SUB] * g * V[SUB]obj[/SUB]



The Attempt at a Solution



Code:
	B=(1.29 kg⁄m^3 )(9.8 m⁄s^2 )(.26808 m^3)

	B=3.39 N	

	m_he=.047986

	F_g=Mg

	F_g=(.347986 kg)(9.8 m⁄s^2 )

	F_g=3.41 N

This is something the prof. said to start with, I'm not sure how this helps aside from proving it has pretty much reached equillibrium. I really just don't know what formula that involves height will work.
 
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Think height in terms of weight of string not altitude
 
Ok so here is the thought process I am having. Find the change in force, use F=ma to find how much mass is lifted (string). Use that to determine how much in h is lifted.

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Code:
mass total / height total = mass lifted / height lifted)

So do I use the small difference in force between my normal force and the buoyent force? .02N I know it doesn't move a significant amount.
 
I haven't received a response but from what I can tell that is right. I did get the same answer as the prof, now I just have to find out if it was luck or if the process was correct. Thanks for the help!
 
At equilibrium bouyancy = weight = mass of length of string h + mass of envelope.


ps. remember the people here are in different time zones
 

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