Solve Combined Gas Law Problem: Volume @ STP from -247.7°C & 380 torr

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The discussion revolves around solving a problem using the Combined Gas Law to determine the volume of a gas at standard temperature and pressure (STP) given its initial conditions of -247.7°C and 380 torr. The focus is on the application of gas laws in a theoretical context.

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  • One participant requests a step-by-step explanation of how to solve the gas law problem.
  • Another participant suggests using the ideal gas equation (PV = nRT) and proposes a method involving setting up a proportion based on the initial and final conditions of the gas.
  • This second participant notes that the ideal gas constant (R) remains the same for both conditions and emphasizes the need to assume the number of moles does not change.
  • A third participant expresses confusion regarding the explanation provided and requests clarification specifically using the Combined Gas Law formula.
  • A fourth participant reiterates the ideal gas equation without providing further clarification.

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There is no consensus on the preferred method for solving the problem, as participants express differing levels of understanding and clarity regarding the explanations provided.

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Some participants may be relying on different interpretations of the gas laws, and there is a lack of clarity on how to apply the Combined Gas Law specifically in this context.

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This discussion may be useful for students seeking assistance with gas law problems, particularly those involving the Combined Gas Law and ideal gas behavior.

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Can someone explain how to solve the following problem using the Combined Gas Law step by step?

What volume will gas occupy if 60.0 mL at -247.7°C and 380 torr pressure are adjusted to STP?

Thank you.
 
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You are going to want to use the ideal gas equation. There is no doubt more complicated/precise ways of solving the problem, but this is how i was taught and is probably how you are expected to do so.

the equation is:

pv = nrt

where p is pressure, v is volume, n is moles, r is the ideal gas constant, and t is temperature.

the ideal gas is constant for all gasses that are assumed to behave ideally. That is, for your first condition (60.0 mL at -247.7°C and 380 torr) r will be the same as r for your second condition (stand temp and pressure).

This means that if you solve the equation for r (pv = nrt ::: r =pv / nt) you can set up a proportion of r = r, so that: p(1) * v(1) / n(1) * t(1) = p (2) * v(2) / n(2) * t(2).

With this equation you can plug in what you have (standard temp/pressure on one side, your original conditions on the other --- you will have to set up a proportion with your original data to solve for the number of moles) and solve for v(2).

You're going to have to assume that the number of moles will not change, and make sure that you keep the conditions isolated to a single side of the proportion.

-anonymous

edit: answer my question if you know it! (https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=443314)
 
I'm sorry but I didn't understand a thing you said. Can you please explain with the combined gas law formula?
 
He did.

anonymity said:
the equation is:

pv = nrt
 
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