Solve Complex Equations | Helpful Tips for Troublesome Equations

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The discussion focuses on solving the complex equation z^2 + z + 1 = 0 using the quadratic formula, which yields two complex roots. A detailed explanation of deriving the quadratic formula through completing the square is provided, emphasizing the steps involved. Additionally, an alternative perspective is introduced, linking the equation to the roots of unity and expressing them in terms of trigonometric functions. The conversation also highlights the importance of understanding different methods for solving quadratic equations. Overall, the thread serves as a resource for those struggling with complex equations and seeking solutions.
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Can someone help me solve this equation which for some reason is giving me trouble?

z^2+z+1=0 where z is a complex number, or if it makes it easier we can write

(x,y)(x,y) + (x,y) + (1,0)= (0,0)
 
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I was trying to do it by separating equations. Anyway, thank you, do you know where I can find an online proof of the quadratic formula?
 
Proof lies in completing the square.

ax^2 + bx + c = 0 = {x^2} + \frac {b} {a} x + \frac {c} {a}
(x + \frac {b} {2a})^2 - \frac {b^2} {4a^2} +\frac {c} {a} =0

Take constant terms to other side, find the square root and subtract b/2a to get the quadratic formula.
 
I'll just type that for you: (the "^" means "to the power")

a x^2 + b x + c = 0
x^2 + (b x)/a + c/a = 0 (divide both sides by a, since a is not zero)
x^2 + (b x)/a = -c/a
x^2 + (b x)/a + (b/2a)^2 = -c/a + (b^2)/(4 a^2) (Add (b/2a)^2 to both sides)
By the identity a^2 + 2ab + b^2 = (a+b)^2, we have
(x + b/2a)^2 = -c/a +(b^2)/(4 a^2)
(x + b/2a)^2 = (b^2-4ac)/(4 a^2)
x + b/2a = sqrt.[b^2-4ac] / 2a or -sqrt.[b^2-4ac] / 2a
x = (-b + sqrt.[b^2-4ac]) / 2a or (-b - sqrt.[b^2-4ac]) / 2a

And so you have the quadratic formula. Hope that helps!
 
whoops, I am new here and just realized that you could create the equations yet...sorry about making that long chunk in the previous post!
 
kuenmao said:
whoops, I am new here and just realized that you could create the equations yet...sorry about making that long chunk in the previous post!

Welcome to PF kuenmao...check out the LaTex post under General Physics.
 
the roots of unity

Another way to look at that is (z-1)(z^2+z+1) = z^3 -1. Thus we are talking about the three roots of 1. Those roots are cos(k(120)) + isin(k(120)), for k=1,2,3. This actually is a better way to do it from the standpoint of insight into the roots of unity. However it is not a general method for solving the quadratic.
 
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