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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding delta values corresponding to given epsilon values in the context of limits, specifically focusing on a limit involving a cubic function. Participants are exploring the relationship between epsilon and delta in the framework of limit definitions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of graphing calculators versus algebraic methods for solving the limit problem. There are attempts to establish intervals based on the epsilon values and questions about the correctness of the derived intervals and inequalities.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts and suggesting alternative approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of algebraic proofs and the triangle inequality, indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of misunderstandings regarding the intervals and the relationship between the values of x and the limit function. Participants are also questioning the assumptions made in their calculations and the necessity of using specific methods to solve the problem.

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Homework Statement


For the limit below, find values of δ that correspond to the ε values.
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Homework Equations


epsilon = .5
and
epsilon = .05


The Attempt at a Solution


These kinds of problems do you have to use a graphing calculator to figure it out?
for epsilon = .05
|(9x + x - 3x^3)-7|<.05
6.95<(9+x-3x^3)<7.05

and I graph it, i get x = about -.75548, y=6.95
x = -.73803, y=7.05

i get |x-1|<0.2619

but its incorrect
 
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Algebra could be used, couldn't it? Isn't solving quadratic inequalities one of the things they teach in pre-calculus?



(I haven't checked your arithmetic, I'm assuming it's right)

Anyways, you are misunderstand something. You did discover* that the interval** (-7.55, -7.39) does have the property that, for every x in it, f(x) lies within the interval (6.95, 7.95).

But that interval is not described by the inequality |x-1|<0.2619...

*: Well, more precisely, you have some evidence to suggest it. To really be confident in it, you have to find some algebraic proof, or a deeper understanding of approximations and conic functions.
**: Of course, you found a slightly larger interval, but the difference isn't really relevant.[/size]
 
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goodz said:
These kinds of problems do you have to use a graphing calculator to figure it out?
for epsilon = .05
|(9x + x - 3x^3)-7|<.05
6.95<(9+x-3x^3)<7.05

and I graph it, i get x = about -.75548, y=6.95
x = -.73803, y=7.05
Try again! First off, those values are nowhere near 1. That should have been a first hint. Secondly, those values do not yield anything close to 7. The values for 9+x-3x3 for x=-0.75548 and x=-0.73803 are 2.538 and 2.438.

i get |x-1|<0.2619

but its incorrect
You made another mistake here. -0.75-1=-1.75, not 0.25.
 
Try considering three separate limits and make use of the triangle inequality to find a delta that'll work for a given epsilon. That way you won't have a hard cubic to solve.
 

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