Solve Magnitudal Tension Homework: Q & ACB Tension

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The discussion revolves around solving a tension problem involving a pulley system with loads P and Q. The initial attempts to calculate the tension in cable ACB and the load Q yielded incorrect results, prompting further analysis. Participants emphasized the importance of correctly applying the sine and cosine rules to the forces acting on the system. A methodical approach was suggested, involving the net force equations in both the X and Y directions, incorporating angles made by the cable segments. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the need for clarity in understanding the relationships between the forces and angles in the problem.
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Homework Statement


A load Q is applied to the pulley C, which can roll on the cable ACB. The pulley is held in position shown by a second cable CAD, which passes over the pulley A and supports a load P. Knowing that P=750N, determine
a) the tension in cable ACB
and
b) the magnitude of load Q

Homework Equations


Using cos and sin rules...?

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew a free body diagram around C, with Q going down, a cable going to the right 25 degrees above the horizontal and a cable going to the left 55 degrees above the horizontal.
The cable on the left i assumed to be 750N.
So the sum of the forces along the X axis is (Tension of ACB)cos25-750cos55=0 and T came out to equal 474.7N.
The sum of the forces along the Y axis is (Tension of ACB)sin25+750sin55-Q=0 and I got Q to equal 241.6N
The answers came out to be in the kiloNewtons.

I also tried another way after finding out my answers were completely off. If it is 750N down, then the cable going from C to A would equal 915.6N (CA = 750/sin55). Using 915.6 as the force for my left cable on my free body diagram, the sum of the forces along the X axis is (Tension of ACB)cos25-915.6cos55=0 and the Tension came out to be 579.5N.
The sum of the forces along the Y axis is 579.5sin25+915.6sin55-Q=0 and Q=994.9N. These answers were also wrong.

So please, can anyone direct me in the correct direction?
 

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i think your first attempt is correct. i see nothing wrong. don't know if i am missing something.
 
There are two string in the problem.
i) The string ACB, one end of which is fixed to the center of the pulley A. Each segment of the string has a tension T.
ii)The string DAC, one end of which is fixed to the center of the pulley C.
Net force in the Y direction is
T*cosθ1 + T*cosθ2) - Q = 0...(1)
String DAC at rest when
Q*cosθ1 - T = P. ...(2)
Here θ1 and θ2 are the angles made by the segments AC and CB with the vertical.
Substitute the value of Q from the eq.1 in eq1.2 and solve for T. From that find Q.
 
rl.bhat said:
There are two string in the problem.
i) The string ACB, one end of which is fixed to the center of the pulley A. Each segment of the string has a tension T.
ii)The string DAC, one end of which is fixed to the center of the pulley C.
Net force in the Y direction is
T*cosθ1 + T*cosθ2) - Q = 0...(1)
String DAC at rest when
Q*cosθ1 - T = P. ...(2)
Here θ1 and θ2 are the angles made by the segments AC and CB with the vertical.
Substitute the value of Q from the eq.1 in eq1.2 and solve for T. From that find Q.

I understand the first equation, but instead of using cos, I had sin55 and sin25. But I don't understand your second equation...
 
Sweet! I have figured it out!
 
can you help i have the same problem
 
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