Solve Multiplexing Conundrum with LS153 Circuit

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a circuit designed with the LS153 multiplexer, specifically focusing on why it is not generating outputs despite receiving expected inputs. The context includes circuit design, simulation issues in SIMETRIX, and potential solutions for output observation.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that address bit A is always the complement of address bit B, leading to only two of the four inputs being sampled, which may explain the lack of change in the F1 output.
  • Another participant expresses concern that the changing state of Not(C) does not appear on F2, indicating a potential issue with the circuit's response.
  • A participant mentions that they have attempted various input configurations in SIMETRIX but still do not see any outputs, suggesting the device may be inactive.
  • Suggestions are made to connect an LED indicator to the output or to create an RS flip-flop using NAND gates to probe the outputs of the multiplexer.
  • One participant advises sketching a timing diagram to investigate potential frequency issues between inputs V1 and V2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reasons for the lack of output, with some focusing on input sampling issues while others suggest potential circuit inactivity or configuration problems. No consensus is reached on the underlying cause of the issue.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the inability to probe output lines in SIMETRIX, which may indicate a deeper issue with the circuit configuration or simulation setup.

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Stuck with simple LS153 multiplexer circuit
Hello,

I am hoping that you could help me understand why my simple circuit is not generating any outputs.
I used LS153 to design a circuit giving two outputs (4 to 1 conversion) on SIMETRIX.
The circuit when 'run' gets the required inputs (as I see them as a square waveform graphs) but the device is not generating outputs.
Would you be able to spare a moment to offer some clues as to what might be missing?
The inputs generated are as per the below table:

Outputs F1 and F2 will be true for AB and C states as listed:

A
B
C
F1
F2
0​
0​
0​
1
0​
0​
0​
1​
0​
1
0​
1​
0​
0​
1
0​
1​
1​
0​
0​
1​
0​
0​
0​
1
1​
0​
1​
0​
0​
1​
1​
0​
0​
0​
1​
1​
1​
1
1

Thank you all for any clues,

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Address bit A is always the complement of address bit B. So only 2 of the 4 inputs are being sampled, namely states '01' = 1, and '10' = 2. Inputs '00' = 0 and '11' = 3 are never selected.

That explains why F1 output does not change.

But it does not explain why the changing state of Not(C) does not appear on F2.
 
Thank you Baluncore, I narrowed the range of inputs just to get some response from the device on SIMETRIX.
I also created various 'single set of inputs' scenarios, and all did not produce any outputs.
What concerns me here is that the SIMETRIX does not even allow me to put a 'digital probe' on the output lines: I can probe any input lines but cannot probe output lines; it seems that the device is inactive but with all the various configurations of inputs, it remains inactive...there has to be a way to resurrect it...I hope
 
Either look for an LED indicator to connect to the output,
or, maybe it needs something to think about.

Make an RS flip-flop from two cross-connected 74LS00 NAND gates.
The outputs of your Mux go to the RS inputs.
You can then probe the Mux outputs.
 
If V1 and V2 are the same frequency there could be a problem. Try sketching a timing diagram. (yeah, using pencil and paper)
 
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