Solve Polar Coordinates: y=x^2

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The discussion revolves around converting the equation y = x^2 into polar coordinates. Participants are exploring the implications of manipulating the equation in polar form and the potential loss of solutions during the process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of cancelling the variable r and the implications of doing so on the solutions. There are differing opinions on whether this approach is appropriate, with some suggesting it is necessary to achieve the desired form, while others express concern about losing solutions.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various participants offering insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been provided regarding the manipulation of the equation, but there is no clear consensus on the best approach to proceed.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential typos in the mathematical expressions, and participants are cautious about the implications of their manipulations, particularly regarding negative values of x and the solutions that may be lost.

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Homework Statement


change the following equation into polar form:

y=x^2

The Attempt at a Solution


r*sin(t) = r^2 * cos(t)^2

stuck after this... my friend suggested that I cancel an r, but won't that get rid of one of the solutions?

I'm not really sure how to proceed
 
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Well, from what I remember, I would say that your friend is right. Cancelling an r is the way to go, mostly because it's nice to have the answer in the "r=" form. It's really the same as if you had x^2=xy, to solve for y you'd simple cancel an x to get y=x.
 
I thought that since "r" was a variable we couldn't cancel it out because we would be losing one of the solutions...

but assuming we can, how should I proceed?
 
I believe dividing both sides by r* cos(t)^2 gives you the equation in polar coordinates solved for r. Does the question ask you to do anything else?
 
ggcheck said:

Homework Statement




cos(t)^2
take care this part is not right, maybe it is just a typo, but it shoul read like this
(cos(t))^{2}
 
By just dividing both sides by r you will defenitely loose one solution, the one when x takes negative values.
 
sutupidmath said:
take care this part is not right, maybe it is just a typo, but it shoul read like this
(cos(t))^{2}
yes, that is how it should read
 
sutupidmath said:
By just dividing both sides by r you will defenitely loose one solution, the one when x takes negative values.
any tips on how to get started? :)
 
well one solution is going to be zero. I think there are two ways of going about this
r*sin(t) = r^2 * (cos(t))^2
r^2*(cos(t))^2 -r*sin(t)=0 now factor a r out
r( r*(cos(t))^2 -sin(t))=0, so which are the two solutions here?
or you might want to solve this r^2*(cos(t))^2 -r*sin(t)=0 as a quadratic equation.
 

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