Solve Series-Parallel Circuit in Phasor Domain

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The discussion revolves around solving a series-parallel circuit in the phasor domain, specifically focusing on the calculations involving impedances, currents, and voltage division. Participants are attempting to clarify their approaches to the problem, which includes both theoretical and practical aspects of circuit analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an initial solution involving the calculation of total impedance for a series inductor and resistor, followed by a parallel combination of another resistor and inductor.
  • Another participant suggests assigning symbols to the passive elements to simplify the calculations and proposes a method for calculating the current using the total impedance.
  • There is a question about the necessity of calculating current at a specific point in the problem, with a request for clarification on the voltage division equation.
  • A participant inquires about the method for multiplying and dividing phasors, indicating uncertainty about the correct approach.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the voltage division setup and seeks guidance on the proper formulation.
  • Clarification is provided about the node voltage (Vn) and the total impedance, with a correction regarding the voltage division equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods and understandings of the problem, with some disagreement on the correct approach to voltage division and the necessity of calculating current. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on how to proceed with the calculations.

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Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding the circuit configuration and the implications of their calculations. There are also unresolved mathematical steps related to the voltage division and phasor operations.

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Homework Statement



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Where Vs = 120 ∠0° V

Homework Equations



All values are represented in ohms, so they are treated as resistors.

The Attempt at a Solution



Series inductor + resistor

30+j10 ohms = 31.62∠18.435°

Parallel resistor and inductor+resistor

(1/50)= 0.02∠0°, 1/(31.62∠18.435°)= 0.0316∠-18.435°
0.02∠0° + 0.0316∠-18.435° = .050968∠-11.31°
1/(050968∠-11.31°) = 19.62∠11.31°

Series [j10+parallel section]

j10 + 19.62∠11.31° = 23.704∠35.746°

Now the current

120∠0° / 23.704∠35.746° = 5.062∠-35.746°Not sure how to set up the Voltage Division equation. I think I'm doing all the impedance calculations correctly though.
 
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assign symbols to the passive elements, then solve using the symbols. It makes the work easier to follow and easier to correct a mistake.

L1=j10
L2=J10
R1-50 ohm
R2=30 ohm

series inductor + resistor
R2+L2

parallel resistor and inductor+resistor

z1=1/(1/R1 + 1/(R2+L2))

current= vs / (L1 + Z1 )
now plug in #s
Its much easier

now let's get to solving the problem...
Why do you need the current at this point in time?

To set up the voltage division equation you use the same method that you would for all resistors
Vo=Vin*R1/(R1+R2)

so in this case Vn= Vin* Z1 / (L1+Z1)
 
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I thought I needed the current to eventually use V=IZ, but I guess not.

I followed you up until you got to current. Why is Vs only over L1+Z1? Because you are calculating voltage drops over that outermost loop?

Where did Vn come from as well?
 
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So for multiplication of phasors I use a cross product? What do I do for division?
 
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I have no idea how to solve what I think is the proper voltage division setup:

(120∠0) [(10∠90) / (23.7∠35.75)]
 
vn is the node between the 2 inductors.
z1 is the parallel combo of the resistor and inductor+resistor. that plus the first inducotor is the total impedance of the circuit.

for division you divide the amplitude and subtract the phase

that is incorrect voltage division.

Vn= Vin* Z1 / (L1+Z1), with vn being that middle node, and z1 being the parallel combo of the resistor and inductor+resistor
 

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