Solving 16^x + 4^(x+1) - 3 = 0

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The discussion revolves around solving the equations 16^x + 4^(x+1) - 3 = 0 and log base a ((x-1)/(x+6)) = log base a ((x-2)/(x+3)). For the logarithmic equation, participants emphasize the importance of maintaining the equality when manipulating the expressions. In the exponential equation, the initial simplification to 4^(2x) + 4^(x+1) - 3 = 0 is noted, with a suggestion to substitute u for 4^x to form a quadratic equation. However, the correct transformation of terms is crucial, as participants clarify the relationships between the variables. Ultimately, the quadratic can be factored correctly to find the solutions.
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1. How do you solve log base a ((x-1)/(x+6)) = log base a ((x-2)/(x+3))
i think you can cancel the logs and it will be ((x-1)(x+3))/((x+6)(x-2)). i don't know where to go from there.the answer is 9/2.

2. 16^x + 4^(x+1) - 3 = 0

i simplified this to:
4^(2x) + 4^(x+1) - 3 = 0

then i substituted u for 4^x and got:
u^2 + u - 3 = 0

but this can't be factored, the answers -0.315. how do i solve this?
 
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itsme03 said:
1. How do you solve log base a ((x-1)/(x+6)) = log base a ((x-2)/(x+3))
i think you can cancel the logs and it will be ((x-1)(x+3))/((x+6)(x-2)). i don't know where to go from there.the answer is 9/2.

Well, "cancelling the logs" is what you are effectively doing. But if you insist on rigour, what you are doing is turning x = y into a^x = a^y and then using that
a^{{}^a\log(x)} = x.
Then you get
\frac{x - 1}{x + 6} = \frac{x - 2}{x + 3}
and you can multiply crosswise (I suppose that is what you tried to do, although you wrote down something which is no longer an equation... please look up how to do this again and try to keep the equal sign in there somewhere :))

itsme03 said:
2. 16^x + 4^(x+1) - 3 = 0

i simplified this to:
4^(2x) + 4^(x+1) - 3 = 0

then i substituted u for 4^x and got:
u^2 + u - 3 = 0

but this can't be factored, the answers -0.315. how do i solve this?

If you cannot factor it, then you should use the quadrature formula. However, I am wondering what happened to the " + 1" in 4^{x + 1}.
If u = 4^x then 4^(x + 1) = ... ?
 
itsme03 said:
1. How do you solve log base a ((x-1)/(x+6)) = log base a ((x-2)/(x+3))
i think you can cancel the logs and it will be ((x-1)(x+3))/((x+6)(x-2)). i don't know where to go from there.the answer is 9/2.
I disagree with CompuChip only in that "cancelling logs" is perfectly rigorous. Since logarithm is a one-to-one function log(x)= log(y) must mean x= y. However, you dropped the "= " sign! Cancelling the logs does NOT give "((x-1)(x+3))/((x+6)(x-2))", it gives (x-1)/(x+6)= (x-2)/(x+3) which is the same as (x-1)(x+3)= (x+ 6)(x- 2). Multiply that out and you get a quadratic on each side BUT the "\(x^2\)" terms cancel out leaving a simple linear equation.

2. 16^x + 4^(x+1) - 3 = 0

i simplified this to:
4^(2x) + 4^(x+1) - 3 = 0

then i substituted u for 4^x and got:
u^2 + u - 3 = 0
No. You would get that only if u= 4^(2x) and u= 4^(x+1). You can't do that. What you can do is write 4^(2x) as (4^x)^2 and 4^(x+1)= 4(4^x) so you have (4^x)^2+ 4(4^x)- 3= 0. NOW let u= 4^x and you have u^2+ 4u- 3= 0. That can be factored.

[/quote]but this can't be factored, the answers -0.315. how do i solve this?[/QUOTE]
 
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