Solving a Circuit Transfer Function: Find C2 for R,C1

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the transfer function of a given circuit and determining the value of capacitor C2 that results in specific pole locations. The scope includes homework-related problem-solving, mathematical reasoning, and circuit analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a transfer function derived from nodal analysis, expressing it in terms of R, C1, and C2, and identifies coefficients a1, a2, and a3.
  • Another participant challenges the correctness of the transfer function provided, suggesting that it is incorrect and referring to an attachment for clarification.
  • A participant mentions the use of the quadratic formula to find the roots of the polynomial and suggests substituting the coefficients to determine C2.
  • There is an ongoing calculation for the value of C2, with one participant indicating they will return with results.
  • Another participant inquires about the method for inserting mathematical expressions into posts, indicating a technical aspect of the forum's functionality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to agree on the correctness of the initial transfer function presented. Multiple views on the approach to solving for C2 remain, and the discussion is unresolved regarding the correct transfer function and the subsequent calculations.

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There are references to attachments that may contain additional information or corrections, but these are not included in the discussion. The discussion also reflects a dependency on the correct interpretation of the circuit and the mathematical steps involved in solving for C2.

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Homework Statement



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Find transfer function of the circuit above (i.e. - \frac{V_o(s)}{V_i(s)})

\frac{V_o(s)}{V_i(s)}\,=\,\frac{a_1}{s^2\,+\,a_2\,s\,+\,a_3}

1) Find a1, a2, a3 in terms of R, C1 and C2

2) Given that C_1\,=\,100\,\mu\,F and R\,=\,10\,K\Omega, find C_2 such that the system has a pair of complex conjugate poles located at -1\,\pm\,j\,\sqrt{399}.

Homework Equations



KCL, OP Amp rules, complex numbers.

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, I went through a nodal analysis, I'm not going to post the steps here, but here are the results...

\frac{V_o}{V_i}\,=\,\frac{1}{C_1\,C_2\,R\,s^2\,+\,2\,C_2\,R\,s\,-\,1}

\frac{V_o}{V_i}\,=\,\frac{\frac{1}{C_1\,C_2\,R}}{s^2\,+\,\frac{2}{C_1}\,s\,-\,\frac{1}{C_1\,C_2\,R}}So that means that...

a_1\,=\,\frac{1}{C_1\,C_2\,R}

a_2\,=\,\frac{2}{C_1}

a_3\,=\,\frac{1}{C_1\,C_2\,R}

That's for part one, does that seem right?For part two, we want to MAKE the roots of the following equation (denominator):

s^2\,+\,2000\,s\,+\,\frac{1}{C_2}\,=\,0

EQUAL TO...

-1\,\pm\,j\,\sqrt{399}

How do I make that happen?
 
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The first problem is that you've got the transfer function wrong. See the first attachment for the correct transfer function.

And as to your last question, don't you remember the quadratic formula? See the second attachment.

Substitute the coefficients a, b and c, and then select C2 to get the roots you want.
 

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So the C2 value for part 2 is ... calculating ... brb!
 
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Well, what did you get?

And, now, you can answer a question for me. How do you paste those mathematical expressions into your post? When I right click on one and select properties, it appears that it is a Latex image.
 

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