Solving a Complex Integral Problem by Hand

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a complex integral problem involving line integrals and potential functions in a vector field context. Participants are exploring the implications of a given problem statement and associated equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss substituting expressions into the integral and setting up dot products, but express difficulty with the complexity of the integral when working by hand. There are hints suggesting the use of a potential function and its gradient, prompting further exploration of its relevance to the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress in identifying a potential function, but there remains confusion about the next steps in the solution process. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the potential function and evaluating line integrals, indicating a productive direction for the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention constraints such as the prohibition of calculator use, which adds to the challenge of solving the integral by hand.

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Homework Statement


The problem is given in the following image.
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2972/lskfjsf.png


Homework Equations


∫h(r)*dr = ∫h[r(u)]*r'(u)du


The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to figure out plugging in (t^2+3) at every x and sin(1/2πt) at every y. I then set up the dot product of the substituted equation and r'(u)du (2t + 1/2πcos(1/2πt)). The problem is, the integral ends up being much to complex to work by hand since I'm not allowed to use a calculator for this problem. So I was wondering if there was an easier way to work this problem out?
 
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p0tat0phun said:

Homework Statement


The problem is given in the following image.
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2972/lskfjsf.png


Homework Equations


∫h(r)*dr = ∫h[r(u)]*r'(u)du


The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to figure out plugging in (t^2+3) at every x and sin(1/2πt) at every y. I then set up the dot product of the substituted equation and r'(u)du (2t + 1/2πcos(1/2πt)). The problem is, the integral ends up being much to complex to work by hand since I'm not allowed to use a calculator for this problem. So I was wondering if there was an easier way to work this problem out?

Think about why the first part asked you to find f(x,y) whose gradient is the given vector field. Perhaps you can use that f(x,y) somehow, hint, hint.
 
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Okay, so I found f(x,y) to be:
3x + e^x*y^2 + 3e^x*y + 2e^x + y^2
But I'm still confused on where to continue with that.
 
p0tat0phun said:
Okay, so I found f(x,y) to be:
3x + e^x*y^2 + 3e^x*y + 2e^x + y^2
But I'm still confused on where to continue with that.

Your text should have a theorem about evaluating line integrals when you have a potential function f(x,y), and that is the whole point of this problem.
 

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