Solving a Differential Eq using Laplace and Unit-Step function

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation using Laplace transforms and the unit-step function. The equation in question is a piecewise function defined by y'' + 4y = f(t), with specific initial conditions and a defined f(t) that changes at t=2.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to express the piecewise function using the unit-step function and seeks clarification on applying the Laplace transform to this setup.
  • Some participants question the applicability of the Laplace transform to certain expressions involving the unit-step function.
  • Others discuss the implications of changing limits of integration when applying the unit-step function in the context of Laplace transforms.
  • There are attempts to derive a general rule for the Laplace transform of functions multiplied by the unit-step function.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the Laplace transform and its application to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of integration and the transformation rules, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express frustration with the problem and the text they are using, indicating a potential lack of clarity in the material. There is also mention of specific initial conditions and the piecewise nature of the function that may complicate the analysis.

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!Solving a Differential Eq using Laplace and Unit-Step function

Homework Statement


I am having a terrible time just starting this. I need some explanation here. I have given up on the text I am using...

I need to solve the following piecewise function using Laplace and Unit-Step function:

y"+4y=f(t) y(0)=-1, y'(0)=0

where f(t)= t, t<2
5, t>2

The Attempt at a Solution



Now I condensed it to one line using the Unit Step function giving:

[itex]y''+4y=t-t*U(t-2)+5*U(t-2)[/itex]

Applying Laplace to the LHS is easy enough, but what is the Laplace of the unit step function? I am having a hard tome extrapolating it from the text.

So far I have

[itex]s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0)+4Y(s)=\frac{1}{s^2}-?[/itex]

Could somebody help me out with the "U" terms here?

Thank you
 
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SKIP AHEAD TO POST #10 That is where I need help
 
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Can somebody please help me with the Laplace Transform

[tex]L(-t*U(t-2))[/tex]

I cannot figure this out!
 
Saladsamurai said:
Can somebody please help me with the Laplace Transform

[tex]L(-t*U(t-2))[/tex]

Is this even "Laplacable"? I guess I do not understand the rules
 
nobody has any advice?
 
Since the U(t-2) just changes the limits of integration to 2 to infinity, rather than 0 to infinity, you need to change the variable from x to u= x- 2 to get back the 0 limit.

Doing that gives a general rule that the Laplace transform of f(x)U(x-a) is e-asF(s) where F(s) is the Laplace transform of f(x).
 
So for [itex]-t*U(t-2)[/itex] I should get [itex]e^{-2s}*-\frac{1}{s^2}[/itex]?
 
I don't think this is correct...
 
HallsofIvy said:
Since the U(t-2) just changes the limits of integration to 2 to infinity, rather than 0 to infinity, you need to change the variable from x to u= x- 2 to get back the 0 limit.

Doing that gives a general rule that the Laplace transform of f(x)U(x-a) is e-asF(s) where F(s) is the Laplace transform of f(x).

Halls, I just found this in my text as a side note. It would appear that the Laplace of f(t)*U(t-a)=e^{-as}*L{g(t+a)} ... not just +L{g(t)}
 
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Okay so I have got it down to this point:

[tex]Y(s)[s^2+4]=\frac{1}{s^2}-e^{-2s}*\frac{1}{(s+2)^2}+5e^{-2s}*\frac{1}{s+2}-s[/tex]

I was going to write the RHS over the LCD and then divide out by [s^2+4] ...sound good? ... there must be a neater way to so this... isn't there? This looks like it will get very sloppy very quick!
 
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This equation is B.S. F#$k this.
 

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