Solving (a+ib)^2 = (c+id)^2: Understanding the Problem and Finding Solutions

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Homework Statement


How do I show that if (a+ib)2 = (c+id)2 then (a+ib) = \pm(c+id)

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The Attempt at a Solution


(a+ib)(a+ib) = a2 + 2aib -b2
(c+id)(c+id) = c2 + 2cid - d2
Stuck after this.
 
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squenshl said:

The Attempt at a Solution


(a+ib)(a+ib) = a2 + 2aib -b2
(c+id)(c+id) = c2 + 2cid - d2
Stuck after this.

Well, if a,b,c and d are all real numbers, then you must have a2-b2=c2-d2 and ab=2cd (for two complex number to be equal, their real parts must be equal and their imaginary parts must be equal)
 


Don't you mean ab = cd. So b = cd/a then (cd/a)2 - b2 = c2 - d2
a4 - c2d2 = a2c2 - a2 - d2
(a2 - c2)(a2 + d2) = 0
Am I on the right track
 


squenshl said:
Don't you mean ab = cd. So b = cd/a then (cd/a)2 - b2 = c2 - d2
a4 - c2d2 = a2c2 - a2 - d2
(a2 - c2)(a2 + d2) = 0
Am I on the right track

Yes. Now realize that for (a2 - c2)(a2 + d2) to be zero, either a2= c2 or c2=-d2...but "a", "c" and "d" are real numbers, so a=___?
 


If (a+bi)^2=(c+di)^2, then clearly (a+bi)^2 - (c+di)^2 = 0. Factor this expression and use the zero product property to arrive at the desired result.
 


jgens said:
If (a+bi)^2=(c+di)^2, then clearly (a+bi)^2 - (c+di)^2 = 0. Factor this expression and use the zero product property to arrive at the desired result.

That works fine, provided you've already proven that

z_1z_2=0\implies z_1=0\;\;\;\text{or}\;\;\;z_2=0[/itex]<br /> <br /> for complex numbers.
 


a2 = -d2 & a2 = c2
a = \pmid & a = \pmc
 
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Right, but you can immediately throw away the solution a=\pm id since both aand d are supposed to be real numbers...What does the other solution give you for b when you plug it back into b=\frac{cd}{a}?
 


b = \pmd
What do we plug that into?
Since we know what a & b is hence (a+ib) = (\pmc + i\pmd) then factorise to get (a+ib) = \pm(c+id)
 
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Yeah, basically. If a=\pm c and b=\pm d, then (a+ ib)=\pm(c + i d) and you're done.:smile:
 
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Awesome.
Cheers.
What if I wanted to do it in polar form.
 
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In polar form, you would basically want to show that (r_1e^{i\phi_1})^2=(r_2e^{i\phi_2})^2 implies r_1e^{i\phi_1}=\pm r_2e^{i\phi_2} and for that, you would use the fact that e^{i\phi_2}=e^{i(\phi_2+2\pi n} to finds the two unique roots of the equation.
 
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What if I wanted to go (a+ib)2 = r12(cos(2\vartheta) + isin(2\vartheta))
 
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Then you would just expand (a+ib)^2 again, and compare the real and imaginary parts on both sides of the equation...
 
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No thanks. That's nasty.
I'll leave the answer in rectangular form.
 
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