Solving an Integral Problem: Finding the Definite Integral

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The discussion focuses on solving the definite integral of the function (t^2 - 3)/(-t^3 + 9t + 1). A participant initially attempts to apply the substitution method but miscalculates the differential dt. Another contributor clarifies that the substitution for dt must account for the entire expression, leading to the correct formulation. The correct relationship is established as -1/3 du = (t^2 - 3) dt, allowing for a simplified integral. The conversation highlights the importance of careful substitution in integral calculus.
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1. The problem
Find the definite integral.
\int \frac {t^2 - 3}{-t^3 + 9t + 1} dt2. The attempt at a solution
The answer is the book made it seem like the rule \int \frac {du}{u} = ln|u| + C was used. Here's what I got:
u = -t^3 + 9t + 1
du = -3t^2 + 9\;dt
-\frac{1}{3}du = t^2 + 9\;dt
Obviously this won't work out, so is there something I'm overlooking that anyone can point out?
 
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yes that rule is used, but when you take du, you're entire quantity needs to be multiplied by dt.
 
the last line of your calculation is wrong.

notice that it should be:
-\frac{1}{3}du=(t^2-3)dt

you forgot changing the dt.
 
you've got the right substitution. By rearranging your du formula for dt you'll get:

dt = -du/(3(t^2-3))
and it will cancel out leaving you with the simple integral
 
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Wow, I feel dumb. Thanks for pointing that out, though.
 
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