Solving an Integral Problem: Finding the Definite Integral

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The problem involves finding the definite integral of the function \(\int \frac {t^2 - 3}{-t^3 + 9t + 1} dt\). Participants are exploring the application of integration techniques, particularly substitution methods.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the substitution method but questions the correctness of their manipulation of \(du\) and \(dt\). Some participants provide feedback on the substitution process and the necessary adjustments to the differential.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering corrections and clarifications regarding the substitution method. There is a recognition of the need to properly account for the differential in the substitution process, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There seems to be some confusion regarding the manipulation of differentials in the substitution process, which is a common point of misunderstanding in integral calculus.

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1. The problem
Find the definite integral.
\int \frac {t^2 - 3}{-t^3 + 9t + 1} dt2. The attempt at a solution
The answer is the book made it seem like the rule \int \frac {du}{u} = ln|u| + C was used. Here's what I got:
u = -t^3 + 9t + 1
du = -3t^2 + 9\;dt
-\frac{1}{3}du = t^2 + 9\;dt
Obviously this won't work out, so is there something I'm overlooking that anyone can point out?
 
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yes that rule is used, but when you take du, you're entire quantity needs to be multiplied by dt.
 
the last line of your calculation is wrong.

notice that it should be:
-\frac{1}{3}du=(t^2-3)dt

you forgot changing the dt.
 
you've got the right substitution. By rearranging your du formula for dt you'll get:

dt = -du/(3(t^2-3))
and it will cancel out leaving you with the simple integral
 
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Wow, I feel dumb. Thanks for pointing that out, though.
 

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