Solving Complex Exponential Equations: Finding Solutions to z^4 = -1

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The discussion revolves around solving the complex exponential equation z^4 = -1, utilizing the polar form of complex numbers. Participants explore the implications of the equation and the relationships between the magnitudes and angles of the complex numbers involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the representation of complex numbers in polar form and the implications of the equation z^4 = -1. Some express uncertainty about the next steps, while others suggest examining the properties of magnitudes and angles. There are mentions of replacing terms and considering the effects of negative signs in the context of finding additional solutions.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes hints and suggestions for approaching the problem, with some participants providing insights into the relationships between the components of the equation. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved, and while one participant claims to have figured it out, the discussion remains open-ended without a definitive resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the polar representation of complex numbers and the implications of the equation on the solutions. There are references to specific values and properties of complex numbers, such as the magnitude of i and the representation of -1 in exponential form.

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Homework Statement

Let z=|z|e^{\alpha*i}

Using the fact that z*w=|z||w|e^{i(\alpha+\beta)}, find all solutions to
z^4 = -1

The Attempt at a Solution



Not quite sure how to proceed, except for the obvious step

i=z^2=|z*z|e^{i(2\alpha)}= |z*z|[cos(2\alpha)+isin(2\alpha)]

Kinda stuck here :s any hints? Thanks.
 
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Just some hints you might have overlooked.

|z*z| = |(-z)*(-z)|

i^2=(z^2)^2=(-(z^2))^2
 
transphenomen said:
Just some hints you might have overlooked.

|z*z| = |(-z)*(-z)|

i^2=(z^2)^2=(-(z^2))^2

Ok so I can replace

|z*z|[cos(2\alpha)+isin(2\alpha)]

with [cos(2\alpha)+isin(2\alpha)]

since |z*z|=|z^2|=|i|=1
 
mathman44 said:
Ok so I can replace

|z*z|[cos(2\alpha)+isin(2\alpha)]

with [cos(2\alpha)+isin(2\alpha)]

since |z*z|=|z^2|=|i|=1

Yup, but it is those negatives that allow you to get more z's that solve the problem z^4=i
 
mathman44 said:

Homework Statement




Let z=|z|e^{\alpha*i}

Using the fact that z*w=|z||w|e^{i(\alpha+\beta)}, find all solutions to
z^4 = -1

The Attempt at a Solution



Not quite sure how to proceed, except for the obvious step

i=z^2=|z*z|e^{i(2\alpha)}= |z*z|[\cos(2\alpha)+\isin(2\alpha)]

Kinda stuck here :s any hints? Thanks.
For one thing, if z^4 = -1\,, then z^2 = \pm i\,.

Seems that the hint might be more helpful had it said:

\text{If }\, z=\left|z\right|e^{\alpha\cdot i}\text{ and }w=\left|w\right|e^{\beta\cdot i}, \text{ then } z\cdot w=\left|z\right|\left|w\right| e^{(\alpha+\beta)i}\,.

\text{Also, }\ -1=\left|-1\right|e^{\pi i}=1e^{\pi i}=e^{\pi i}\,.

\text{and, }\ i=\left|i\right|e^{\pi i/2}=e^{\pi i/2}\,.

Added in edit: Additional helpful facts.

e^{2\pi n\,i}=\left(e^{2\pi\,i}\right)^n=\left(1\right)^n=1\,,\ \text{ where n is an integer.}

-1=e^{\pi i}\cdot e^{2\pi n\,i}=e^{(2\pi n+\pi)\,i}

\left|w\right|e^{i\beta}=\left|v\right|e^{i\phi}\ \ \implies\ \ \left\{\left|w\right|=\left|\ v\right| \ \text{ and }\ \beta =\phi\ \right\}.

Solve: \left(\left|z\right|e^{i\alpha}\right)^4=e^{(2\pi n+\pi)\,i}\,.
 
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Thanks very much Sammy, I've figured it out :)
 

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