Solving Cos4x + Sin4x = 1: Can I Sqroot Both Terms?

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The discussion revolves around the equation Cos4x + Sin4x = 1 and the validity of taking the square root of both sides. Participants explore the implications of manipulating the equation and provide various mathematical perspectives and transformations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about whether Cos4x + Sin4x = 1 allows for taking the square root of each term individually.
  • Several participants clarify that sqrt(a+b) does not equal sqrt(a) + sqrt(b), emphasizing the need to treat the equation correctly when applying square roots.
  • Another participant presents a transformation of Cos4x + Sin4x into a different form, stating it equals 1 - 2Cos²xSin²x.
  • A further contribution suggests simplifying this expression to 1 - (1/2)Sin²(2x) using the identity 2Sin(x)Cos(x) = Sin(2x).
  • One participant mentions a complex analysis approach, detailing how to express Cos4x using exponential functions and deriving a relationship involving Cos²x and Sin²x.
  • Another participant uses the definitions of trigonometric functions and the Pythagorean theorem to argue that Cos4x + Sin4x does not equal 1, providing a different perspective on the equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of taking the square root of both sides of the equation. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the manipulation of the equation and its implications.

Contextual Notes

Some mathematical steps and assumptions are not fully resolved, particularly regarding the implications of taking square roots and the transformations applied to the original equation.

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I am a bit confused here.

Cos2x + sin2x = 1

Thus can I say

Cos4x + sin4x = 1

If I just sqroot each term:
sqroot Cos4x + sqroot sin4x = sqroot (1) = 1

?
 
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No. Sqrt(a+b) and sqrt(a)+sqrt(b) is different. If you take sqrt on both sides, it has to be sqrt(a+b)=sqrt(c).
But you can still write##cos^4x+sin^4x=(cos^2x+sin^2x)-2cos^2xsin^2x##
 
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AdityaDev said:
No. Sqrt(a+b) and sqrt(a)+sqrt(b) is different. If you take sqrt on both sides, it has to be sqrt(a+b)=sqrt(c).
But you can still write##cos^4x+sin^4x=(cos^2x+sin^2x)-2cos^2xsin^2x##

You can write it, but it wouldn't be correct. Instead:

##cos^4x+sin^4x=(cos^2x+sin^2x)^2-2cos^2xsin^2x = 1 - 2cos^2xsin^2x##
 
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I think that the simplest form will be:
$$...=1-2\cos^2x\sin^2x=1-\frac{1}{2}\sin^2(2x)$$
because:
$$2\sin x\cos x=\sin(2x)$$
 
PeroK said:
You can write it, but it wouldn't be correct. Instead:

##cos^4x+sin^4x=(cos^2x+sin^2x)^2-2cos^2xsin^2x = 1 - 2cos^2xsin^2x##
it was a typo
 
Using complex analysis makes it still more elegant. On one hand: e^{4ix}=cos(4x)+isin(4x). On the other hand: e^{4ix}=(cos(x)+isin(x))^{4}= cos^{4}(x) + 4icos^{3}(x)sin(x) + 6i^{2}cos^{2}(x)sin^{2}(x)+4i^{3}cos(x)sin^{3}(x)+i^{4}sin^{4}(x). Multiplying out: e^{4ix}=cos^{4}(x) + 4icos^{3}(x)sin(x) - 6cos^{2}(x)sin^{2}(x)-4icos(x)sin^{3}(x)+sin^{4}(x). Thus: cos(4x)+isin(4x)=cos^{4}(x)+sin^{4}(x) - 6cos^{2}(x)sin^{2}(x) + i(4cos^{3}(x)sin(x) )-4cos(x)sin^{3}(x)). Taking the real part: cos(4x)=cos^{4}(x)+sin^{4}(x) - 6cos^{2}(x)sin^{2}(x)
 
From the definition of trigonometric function
cos=x/r
sin=y/r
From the Pythagorean theorem
r^2=x^2+y^2

cos^4(x) + sin^4(x)
=(x^4+y^4)/r^4
=((x^2+y^2)^2-2x^2y^2)/(r^4)
=(r^4-2x^2y^2)/r^4
!=1
 
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