Solving Dirichlet problem on a Square

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The discussion centers around solving a Dirichlet problem defined on a unit square, with specific boundary conditions provided for the function f(x,y). Participants are exploring the implications of the problem statement and the nature of the boundary conditions in relation to the Laplace equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about the meaning of "solve by inspection" and the role of the function u. There are inquiries about the nature of boundary conditions and how they relate to the problem. Some participants suggest looking into separation of variables and other methods, while others reflect on their limited knowledge of PDEs.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing resources and expressing confusion about foundational concepts in PDEs. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of boundary conditions, but there is no explicit consensus on how to proceed with the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of prior knowledge in PDE theory and mention that they have not yet covered certain methods in their coursework. There is also a recognition that the original poster may be attempting to engage with the material prematurely.

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1. Problem Statement
Solve by inspection the Dirichlet problem, where [itex]\Omega[/itex] is the unit square 0[itex]\leq[/itex]x[itex]\leq[/itex]1, 0[itex]\leq[/itex] y [itex]\leq[/itex] 1, and where the data is:
f(x,y) = {
x for 0[itex]\leq[/itex]x[itex]\leq[/itex]1, y=0,
1 for x = 1, 0[itex]\leq[/itex] y [itex]\leq[/itex] 1,
x for 0[itex]\leq[/itex]x[itex]\leq[/itex]1, y=1,
0 for x=0, 0[itex]\leq[/itex]y[itex]\leq[/itex]1




Homework Equations


Dirichlet Problem:

[itex]\Delta[/itex] u = 0 in [itex]\Omega[/itex]
u = f on d[itex]\Omega[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know where to really start with this one. What does it mean "solve by inspection the dirichlet problem?" What is u? How does the "data" help, it's the initial conditions right?
 
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It's the boundary conditions. How much PDE theory do you know?
 
Almost nothing, sadly. I have had only one lecture in it so far and that was just going over the three main operators in PDEs.
Is there a good website that shows how to solve the Dirichlet problem with boundary conditions or just how to solve a problem with boundary conditions?
 
So if I mention separation of variables, this would draw a blank to you? It sounds like you need to go to a few more lectures before you start looking at the questions.

Have you tried a google search? It would be the first thing I would do.
 
hunt_mat said:
So if I mention separation of variables, this would draw a blank to you? It sounds like you need to go to a few more lectures before you start looking at the questions.

Have you tried a google search? It would be the first thing I would do.

Unfortunately, mainly yes. I do know that we will be covering three main methods: Separation of Variables, Green's Method, and Variational/Numerical methods, but we haven't even discussed what each means. It isn't even until next week we start discussing the separation of variables though.

I did a google search for solving differential equations using boundary conditions and it made sense. Specifically, I used http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/BoundaryValueProblem.aspx"
A google search of dirichlet problem did no good.

I suppose I'll just have to keep reading, thank you for the help!
 
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How about a search on wikipedia?
 
hunt_mat said:
How about a search on wikipedia?

I came across http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirichlet_boundary_condition" .
So, what I'm getting from it is I need to find a solution to a PDE based on the boundary conditions given. Is my PDE [itex]\Delta[/itex]u = 0 in the unit square and u = f where f is our data?
I'm just confused on where to start.
 
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Basically yes, your f is your boundary data. Like I said you're probablt jumping into the problems a little too early.
 
Yet the original question was to solve that Dirichlet problem by inspection. By examining the values on the boundary of the square, it really isn't much to ask to guess a solution, never mind the lack of advanced techniques available.
 
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How would you go about that?
 
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Scootertaj said:
How would you go about that?

Is there a simple function in the square that fits your data on the boundary of the square? Does that function solve the Laplace equation 'by inspection'?
 

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