Solving Double Integrals with Polar Coordinates: What's the Correct Approach?

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The discussion focuses on solving the double integral ∫∫ (x² - y²) / (x² + y²)² dx dy using polar coordinates. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly determining the limits for r and θ, noting that θ ranges from 0 to π/2. For a fixed θ, r must be defined as a function of θ to accurately represent the integration limits. The conversation highlights the need for separate functions for r when θ is less than or greater than π/4. Properly addressing these limits is crucial for evaluating the integral without encountering issues like ln(0).
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Homework Statement



Find \int \left( \int \frac{x^2-y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2} \;dx \right) dy.

The Attempt at a Solution



How would I go about finding \int \frac{x^2-y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2} \;dx?

If I made the substitution u^2=x^2+y^2 how do I go from here?
 
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Use polar coordinates.
 


dirk_mec1 said:
Use polar coordinates.

So letting x=r\cos \thetay=r\sin\theta what would be the limits of the r integral and the \theta integral if x\in [0,1] and y\in [0,1]?
 
Come on, Ted! :rolleyes:

θ obviously goes from 0 to π/2

and, for a fixed value of θ, r goes from 0 to … ? :smile:
 


tiny-tim said:
Come on, Ted! :rolleyes:

θ obviously goes from 0 to π/2

and, for a fixed value of θ, r goes from 0 to … ? :smile:

Well if 0 \leq \theta \leq \frac{\pi}{2} and 0 \leq r \leq 1 then \int^1_0 \int^1_0 \frac{x^2-y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2}dxdy = \int^{\frac{\pi}{2}}_0 \int^1_0 \frac{\cos(2\theta)}{r} drd\theta

but what do I do about \ln(0)?
 
Ted123 said:
Well if 0 \leq \theta \leq \frac{\pi}{2} and 0 \leq r \leq 1

No! It's a square!

How can r go from 0 to 1 to make a square? :redface:
 


tiny-tim said:
No! It's a square!

How can r go from 0 to 1 to make a square? :redface:

If 0 \leq r \leq \sqrt{2} then I'm still faced with a [\ln(r)]^{\sqrt{2}}_0
 
Ted, to find the limit you have to fix θ, and see where r goes between for that value of θ.

So your r limit will be a function of θ.

(btw, in this particular case, you'll need separate functions for θ ≤ π/4 and θ > π/4 :wink:)
 

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