Solving Enthaply by other ways?

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The discussion revolves around the adiabatic expansion of 2 moles of an ideal gas, questioning the calculations of work (w), change in internal energy (dE), change in enthalpy (dH), and temperature change (dT). Initial calculations show w and dE as -997.78J, while dH is derived using different methods, yielding inconsistent results, leading to confusion about the correct approach. There is a debate on whether dH can be calculated using the formula dH = dE + d(PV) and the implications of constant pressure on dH and heat transfer (q). Participants clarify that while the external pressure remains constant, the process is adiabatic, affecting temperature and internal energy. The conversation highlights the complexities of thermodynamic calculations and the importance of understanding process definitions.
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2 moles of an ideal gas at 300K and 5 bar is expanded adiabatically at a constant pressure of 1 bar till the volume doubles. Cv = 3R/2. Calculate w, q, dE, dH and change in T.

I found that w = dE = -997.78J

In class we solved dH by:

dH = CpdT = -1.66kJ

(we found Cp by Cp=Cv+nR ; we found dT by Cv=dE/dT)


I was wondering if we could solve dH another way:
dH = dE + d(PV)

However, I get a different answer..
dH = dE + Pext dV (because pressure is constant)
dH = -997.78J +-997.78J (because Pext dV is work)
dH = -2.00 kJ

I also tried another way:
dH = dE + d(nRT)
dH = -977J + (2mol)(8.3145J/K)(-80K)
dH = -1.08kJ

I am not getting the same value for each of the different ways I am using... Am I doing something wrong or am I not allowed to solve dH using the other methods?

Also, at constant pressure, isn't dH = qrev.. and q=0, so shouldn't dH = 0?


Thank you
 
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fubear said:
2 moles of an ideal gas at 300K and 5 bar is expanded adiabatically at a constant pressure
It is adiabatic or at constant pressure? How can be both?
 
The external pressure is constant, but the system undergoes an adiabatic process
 
I'm with nasu here. If the gas expands adiabatically pushing out a piston, then it will do work pushing out the piston, and its internal energy will fall. So, therefore, will its temperature, and its pressure (since P = nRT/V and T goes down and V goes up).
 
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