Solving Equation x= (1+c+a)/(2-a): Need Help!

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation x = (1+c+a)/(2-a), with participants exploring various algebraic manipulations and interpretations of the equation. The subject area includes algebra and equation solving techniques.

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  • Participants share their attempts to manipulate the equation, with some expressing confusion about specific steps, such as eliminating terms or rearranging fractions. Questions arise regarding the validity of different algebraic approaches and the implications of certain manipulations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and suggestions to each other. Some have expressed doubts about their calculations, while others have noted potential errors in earlier reasoning. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the algebraic steps needed to simplify the equation.

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x=[tex]\frac{1+c+a(\frac{1+c+ax}{2})}{2}[/tex]

should give x=[tex]\frac{1+c}{2-a}[/tex]

I've been trying to solve it now for like two hours. Some hints?

thank you
 
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Show what you did, it is hard to tell where is your problem. In general equation is not difficult - multiply, rearrange and you should get there.
 
x=1/2+1/2c+1/4a+1/4ac+1/4a²x

How do I get rid of the a² especially?
 
koolmodee said:
x=1/2+1/2c+1/4a+1/4ac+1/4a²x

How do I get rid of the a² especially?
So x- 1/4 a2x= (1- 1/4 a)x= 1/2+ 1/2 c+ 1/4 a+ 1/4 ac
Now what do you do?
 
HallsofIvy said:
So x- 1/4 a2x= (1- 1/4 a)x= 1/2+ 1/2 c+ 1/4 a+ 1/4 ac

More like

[tex]x-\frac 1 4 a^2x = (1- \frac 1 4 a^2)x[/tex]
 
Dividing by a?

(1/a-a/4)x=1/2a + c/2a + 1/4 + c/4

but now?
 
NO! Divide by (1- 1/4 a2)!
 
Why should I do that?

Nothing cancels then on the RHS?
 
Divide, you will be surprised how many things cancel out :smile:

hint:

[tex]a^2 - b^2 = (a-b)(a+b)[/tex]
 
  • #10
Got it! thanks, guys!
 
  • #11
I am getting x = (1+c) / (1/2-a)

Is everyone else getting the "2-a" as the denominator as it was stated in the solution posted?
 
  • #12
Never-mind. I got "2-a" as my denominator now :) .

I didn't think to separate the "1" into "(2(1/2))", so that the "1/2's" could cancel out. Although, if I had not done that, and I just divided the "1/2" in the numerator, by the "1" in the denominator, to get "1/2-a", why exactly would it have been wrong?

This was the set up that I had...

x= (1/2 + 1/4a) (1+c) / (1-1/4a^2) ...

Then I rearranged the denominator so that values could cancel out...

x= (1/2 + 1/4a) (1+c) / (2(1/2)) - a(1/4a) ...where the "1/2" and the "1/4a" cancel out...

but again...what if I had changed the denominator to "1 - a(1/4a)" and got "1/2-a"?

Thanks to anyone else in advance...I hope I was clear enough with my question.

-Ford
 
  • #13
Where did you get 1/2 from?

[tex]1-\frac {a^2} 4 = (1 - \frac a 2)(1 + \frac a 2)[/tex]

It is much simpler IMHO to start by multiplying both sides of the equation by 4 at some early stage - then you end without fractions.
 
  • #14
Sorry to waste your time Borek. I noticed another error I made in my earlier calculations which screwed the whole problem up (so everyone, ignore my previous posts! haha). Since then I have fixed it and have the correct solution. Thank you anyway for your help!
-Ford
 
  • #15
Why all the superfluous algebraic manipulation and rearranging? Just consider the root equation satisfied here:

x = (1+c+ax)/2

Solving for x gives the desired conclusion immediately.
 

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