Solving Gauss Law Problem 1: Electric Field of a Charged Copper Shell and Wire

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The discussion focuses on solving a Gauss's Law problem involving a charged cylindrical copper shell and wire. The participants clarify the need to correctly apply Gauss's Law to find the electric field at a specified radial distance from the wire and at the wire's surface. There are issues with unit conversions, particularly regarding the diameter of the wire, which is incorrectly converted from centimeters to meters. The correct formula for the electric field is identified as E = 2*k*lambda/r, but participants express confusion over the calculations and conversions. Accurate application of Gauss's Law and careful unit handling are emphasized as crucial for obtaining the correct electric field values.
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Homework Statement

A thin, cylindrical copper shell of diameter ds = 6 cm has along its axis a thin metal wire of diameter dw = 7.05 × 10-3 cm. (as shown in the diagram below.) The wire and the shell carry equal and opposite charges of 5.90 × 10-9C/cm, distributed uniformly. What is the magnitude of the electric field at a point r = 3.30 mm, where r is measured radially from the center of the inner wire? What is the magnitude of the electric field at the surface of the wire?

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I know this is refers to Gauss law.


The Attempt at a Solution


For the first part, I know that I need to find the Electric Field E = the charge/ 2*pie*epilson zero, the radius. My prof said to take this answer into the diameter, but I'm not sure what he means by that. The second part I have no idea how to do.
 
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I think you are trying to apply a result derived from Gauss' law without really understanding Gauss' law. Take a cylinder of radius r and length L centered on the wire with r between the radius of the wire and the shell. What's the charge contained in the cylinder? What's the electric flux through the cylinder (considering that the E field is constant through the outer surface of cylinder and the surface area of that outer surface is 2*pi*r)? What does Gauss' law say the relation between the two is?
 
To give you more insight into this kind of problem, I recommend a book by W.H. Hayt called Engineering Electromagnetics, a very readable text. I bet you can find a copy over in Potter EC library. (If you are curious about this author. There is a wall display, dedicated to him at the Mem'l Union).
 
What is the magnitude of the electric field at the surface of the wire?

I know that the E field = 2*k*lambda/r

I am given lambda which I converted to m which I get 5.90E-7 C/m.
I am given the diameter of the wire = 7.05E-3 cm or 0.705 m. The radius will be 0.3525 m. I found that the E field using this formula is 3.01E4 N/C. This is wrong. Is this even the right equation?
 
purduegirl said:
I am given the diameter of the wire = 7.05E-3 cm or 0.705 m.
Careful here! E-3 cm = E-5 m.
 
I don't see what equation you are using, but the unit conversions are not going so well. 7.05E-3cm is NOT 0.705m.
 
the answer I got was 10608.2/3.525E-5 = .030094 N/C, still incorrect
 
purduegirl said:
the answer I got was 10608.2/3.525E-5 = .030094 N/C, still incorrect

That's not good. What numbers are you plugging into what equation?
 
Dick said:
I don't see what equation you are using, but the unit conversions are not going so well. 7.05E-3cm is NOT 0.705m.

I know that the E field = 2*k*lambda/r
 
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2(8.99e9)(5.90e-11)/(3.525e-5) = 30094.1844
 
  • #11
You said before lambda=5.90E-7 C/m. That conversion was correct.
 
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