Solving Heat Transfer of Ice Homework: Initial Copper Temp

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The discussion centers on a heat transfer problem involving a 6.00 kg piece of copper and 2.00 kg of ice at -20.0°C, aiming to find the initial temperature of the copper. The calculations initially led to an incorrect temperature of 118.974°C due to arithmetic errors and incorrect values for the latent heat of fusion. The correct initial temperature of the copper is determined to be 150°C, requiring the latent heat of fusion to be accurately set at 3.33 x 10^5 J/kg.

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  • Understanding of heat transfer principles, specifically Q=mcΔT and Q=mL.
  • Knowledge of latent heat of fusion for ice.
  • Ability to perform arithmetic calculations involving thermal energy.
  • Familiarity with thermal equilibrium concepts.
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  • Review the principles of heat transfer, focusing on the equations Q=mcΔT and Q=mL.
  • Study the latent heat of fusion values for various substances, particularly ice.
  • Practice solving thermal equilibrium problems with varying mass and temperature conditions.
  • Learn about error analysis in thermal calculations to avoid common pitfalls.
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Homework Statement


A 6.00-kg piece of solid copper metal at an initial temperature T is placed with 2.00 kg of ice that is initially at -20.0C. The ice is in an insulated container of negligible mass and no heat is exchanged with the surroundings. After thermal equilibrium is reached, there is 1.2 kg of ice and 0.80 kg of liquid water. What was the initial temperature od the piece of copper?[/B]

Homework Equations


Q=mcΔT
Q=mL (L in this case is the heat of fusion)
ΣQ=0[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


Qcopper= 6(390)(Tf-T)
Qice=2(2100)(0-(-20))=8400J (heat required to raise the temperature of the ice to 0C)
Qwater=.8(334x10^3)=26400J (heat required to melt .8 kg of ice)

applying ΣQ=0:
6(390)(Tf-T) + 8400+26400=0

Tf= would have to be 0c because we still have some ice left.

solve for T:
T
=118.974C
The correct answer is 150C
what did I do wrong?[/B]
 
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You've made some arithmetic errors.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
You've made some arithmetic errors.

Chet
Thanks! Is the method correct, though?
 
Bassa said:
Thanks! Is the method correct, though?
Yes
 
Bassa said:

Homework Statement


A 6.00-kg piece of solid copper metal at an initial temperature T is placed with 2.00 kg of ice that is initially at -20.0C. The ice is in an insulated container of negligible mass and no heat is exchanged with the surroundings. After thermal equilibrium is reached, there is 1.2 kg of ice and 0.80 kg of liquid water. What was the initial temperature od the piece of copper?[/B]

Homework Equations


Q=mcΔT
Q=mL (L in this case is the heat of fusion)
ΣQ=0[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


Qcopper= 6(390)(Tf-T)
Qice=2(2100)(0-(-20))=8400J (heat required to raise the temperature of the ice to 0C)
Qwater=.8(334x10^3)=26400J (heat required to melt .8 kg of ice)

applying ΣQ=0:
6(390)(Tf-T) + 8400+26400=0

Tf= would have to be 0c because we still have some ice left.

solve for T:
T
=118.974C
The correct answer is 150C
what did I do wrong?[/B]

You should check your arithmetic here throughout. For example, when I calculate 2 * 2100 * 20, I don't get 8400.
 
Thank you very much for your help!
 
Your Latent heat of fusion of ice is incorrect. It should be 3.33 x 10^5 for it to have a result of 150 centigrade.
 
Fizixxs said:
Your Latent heat of fusion of ice is incorrect. It should be 3.33 x 10^5 for it to have a result of 150 centigrade.
Hello, @Fizixxs .

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You are answering a thread which is more than 8 years old.
 
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