Solving Improper Integrals: 1/sqrt(9-x^2) 0 to 3

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the improper integral of the function 1/sqrt(9-x^2) over the interval from 0 to 3. Participants are exploring the implications of the function's domain and where special care is needed in the integration process.

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  • Assumption checking, Problem interpretation, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the integration process and the resulting arcsin function. There is a focus on identifying points within the integration range where the function may not be defined, particularly questioning the behavior at x = 3. Some participants express confusion about the function's behavior, particularly regarding its transition from negative to positive values.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the domain of the function and the nature of improper integrals. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider points where the function is undefined, but no consensus has been reached on the specific value requiring special attention.

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Participants note that they have previously worked with proper integrals and are now encountering challenges with improper integrals, particularly in relation to the function's domain and behavior at specific points.

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Homework Statement



integral of 1/sqrt(9-x^2)
from 0 to 3



Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution


I integrate it correct to arcsin(x/3) from 0 to 3
Get the correct anwser of pi/2.

But there is another question, At which value of x in the integration region [0,3] does special care need to be taken with the integration? I understand at some point it goes from negatie to positive, but i tried 0,3,pi/2,pi.. none worked.. anyhelp?
 
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Chas3down said:

Homework Statement



integral of 1/sqrt(9-x^2)
from 0 to 3



Homework Equations



///

The Attempt at a Solution


I integrate it correct to arcsin(x/3) from 0 to 3
Get the correct anwser of pi/2.

But there is another question, At which value of x in the integration region [0,3] does special care need to be taken with the integration? I understand at some point it goes from negatie to positive, but i tried 0,3,pi/2,pi.. none worked.. anyhelp?

What did you get when you put ##x=3## into the integrand?

And why do you say it goes from negative to positive?
 
Chas3down said:

Homework Statement



integral of 1/sqrt(9-x^2)
from 0 to 3



Homework Equations



///

The Attempt at a Solution


I integrate it correct to arcsin(x/3) from 0 to 3
Get the correct anwser of pi/2.

But there is another question, At which value of x in the integration region [0,3] does special care need to be taken with the integration? I understand at some point it goes from negatie to positive, but i tried 0,3,pi/2,pi.. none worked.. anyhelp?

Check the domain of the original function to be integrated.
 
I never had to do anything with the domain, it just worked.. But i guessed 0, pi/2 and 3. I thought it was be pi/2 because that's where it goes from neg to pos.
 
Chas3down said:
I never had to do anything with the domain, it just worked.. But i guessed 0, pi/2 and 3. I thought it was be pi/2 because that's where it goes from neg to pos.

That's because you have been doing "proper" integrals up to this point. Improper integrals involve integrating across a point where the function is not defined. In this case the the function is not defined at x = __. The normal procedure is to introduce a variable for that number and take the limit as a approaches that number.

In this case, arcsin is defined on [0,1]. But the original function is not defined on [0,3].
 
LCKurtz said:
What did you get when you put ##x=3## into the integrand?

And why do you say it goes from negative to positive?

Chas3down said:
I never had to do anything with the domain, it just worked.. But i guessed 0, pi/2 and 3. I thought it was be pi/2 because that's where it goes from neg to pos.

Try answering my two questions.
 

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