Solving Initial Value Problem with Implicit Solution

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The discussion focuses on solving the initial value problem defined by the differential equation (y + e-y)y' = sin(x) with the condition y(π) = 0. Participants highlight the challenge of finding an explicit solution for y, noting that the equation may only yield an implicit solution. The approach involves recognizing that implicit differentiation can be used to derive dy/dx, which satisfies the differential equation and initial condition.

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Homework Statement


Solve the initial value problem (y+e^-y)y'=sinx subject to y(pi)=0


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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not quite sure what to do with this one. I've scanned through my book and could find no similar problems in what we've done so far. I tried to plug in dy/dx for y' and use separation of variables, but then I get stuck unable to solve for y after integrating. I cannot seem to find a way to set this one up to create an integrating factor either. If someone could nudge me in the right direction, I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
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jgiarrusso said:

Homework Statement


Solve the initial value problem (y+e^-y)y'=sinx subject to y(pi)=0


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not quite sure what to do with this one. I've scanned through my book and could find no similar problems in what we've done so far. I tried to plug in dy/dx for y' and use separation of variables, but then I get stuck unable to solve for y after integrating. I cannot seem to find a way to set this one up to create an integrating factor either. If someone could nudge me in the right direction, I'd greatly appreciate it.
I don't think you're going to be able to solve for y. I ended up with (1/2)y2 - e-y on one side, and a function of x on the other.

Sometimes it's not possible to give the solution as an explicit function of x (ie., as y = f(x)), so the solution is given implicitly.

As long as your equation satisfies the DE (you'll need to use implicit differentiation to solve for dy/dx) and initial condition, you're good.
 

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