Solving Motion Equations: Two Spacecrafts 13,500 m Apart

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The problem involves two spacecraft that are 13,500 meters apart, moving towards each other. The first spacecraft has a velocity of 525 m/s and a constant acceleration of -15.5 m/s². The goal is to determine the initial velocity and constant acceleration of the second spacecraft so that both arrive at the same position with zero velocity.

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  • The original poster attempts to use kinematic equations to calculate the time, displacement, and necessary parameters for the second spacecraft but expresses confusion over the results.
  • Some participants question the validity of the equations used for displacement, suggesting that they may not apply correctly in this context.
  • Others discuss the importance of considering the signs of velocity and acceleration in relation to the direction of motion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the equations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the signs of the velocities and accelerations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There is a mention of potential errors in the original poster's calculations, particularly concerning the signs of the values derived. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the assumptions related to motion in one dimension with constant acceleration.

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I don't know why but I am having a little problem with this problem here:

Two spacecraft are 13,500 m apart and moving directly toward each other. The first spacecraft has velocity 525 m/s and accelerates at a constant −15.5 m/s2. They want to dock, which means they have to arrive at the same position at the same time with zero velocity. (a) What should the initial velocity of the second spacecraft be? (b) What should be its constant acceleration?

Here is my work:

used vf = vi + at to get 33.87 s for time for the 1st aircraft

used displacement = 1/2(vi + vf)t to get 8891 m

then 13500m - 8891m = 4609 m for distance traveled for the 2nd aircraft

used displacement = 1/2(vi + vf)t to get 272 m for the vi of the 2nd aircraft (answer to a)

then used vf = vi + at to get -8.04 m/s^2 for acceleration of the 2nd aircraft (answer to b)

if you plug these numbers in and add up both equations then they equal to 13500 m but somehow I am wrong? Am I using the wrong formulas or have made an err in my math? can somebody please help?
 
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You should forget the eq. you use to calculate displacements

d=1/2·(Vi+Vf)t

Because is almost never working just because it's not true in general.

I didn't look into all your math" but I can ensure you that using that formulae you´ll do wrong.
 
Zaphys said:
You should forget the eq. you use to calculate displacements

d=1/2·(Vi+Vf)t

Because is almost never working just because it's not true in general.

Assuming motion in one dimension, constant acceleration, and an initial position at [tex]x = 0[/tex], all of which conditions hold for this problem, the above equation is perfectly good.
 
r_swayze said:
if you plug these numbers in and add up both equations then they equal to 13500 m but somehow I am wrong? Am I using the wrong formulas or have made an err in my math? can somebody please help?

Why do you say you are wrong?
 
Lets draw a picture.
o1-----------x-------------02
Velocity is positive to the right as shown in the question. Because of that velocity and acceleration of o2 should be the opposite sign of o1.

a<--- o1 --->v
v<--- o2 --->a

What you have is correct in magnitude but not direction, the velocity should be negative and the acceleration should be positive.
 
Sorry tms and swayze I was just thinking wrong... :S

never mind swayze you're all right in that sense.
 
I know it's really late, but just in case you wanted to know (a) would be -272 and (b) would be 8.04. You just had the signs mixed up. I have the same online homework.
 

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