Solving Parabolas & Lines Through (-1,3) and (2,12)

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The discussion focuses on using Gaussian elimination to find two distinct parabolas that pass through the points (-1,3) and (2,12). The user initially sets up two equations based on these points but struggles to find the correct value for the coefficient c, which they believe is -6. Other participants clarify that, since there are two equations, two coefficients can be expressed in terms of the third, indicating multiple solutions are possible. They emphasize the need to show the steps taken to arrive at the value of c for better understanding. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the results from Gaussian elimination to solve for the parabolas and the line through the given points.
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I have a question assigned that states:

use gaussian elimination to find 2 distinct parabolas (y=ax^2+bx+c (one with a greater than 0 and one larger than 0)) that can pass through (-1,3) and (2,12). How many parabolas can pass through the given points and why?

Then use only your above results to determine the equation of the straight line that passes through the 2 points.


ok what i did is i made 2 equations:

3=a-b+c
12=4a+2b+c and used gaussian elimination to solve for the variables but the only one that can be found is c which equals -6.

Am i completely on the wrong track or is there something i am overlooking when I am doing this

please help

thanks
 
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Your equations look right but I don't think the result (c = -6) is correct, can you show us how you got that?
 
1 1 1 3
2 2 1 12



can be transformed by a sequence of elementary row operations to the matrix

1 1 0 9
0 0 1 -6



Step 2: Interpret the reduced row echelon form


The reduced row echelon form of the augmented matrix is

1 1 0 9
0 0 1 -6



which corresponds to the system

1 x1 +1 x2 = 9
1 x3 = -6
 
DethRose said:
I have a question assigned that states:
use gaussian elimination to find 2 distinct parabolas (y=ax^2+bx+c (one with a greater than 0 and one larger than 0)) that can pass through (-1,3) and (2,12). How many parabolas can pass through the given points and why?
Then use only your above results to determine the equation of the straight line that passes through the 2 points.
ok what i did is i made 2 equations:
3=a-b+c
12=4a+2b+c and used gaussian elimination to solve for the variables but the only one that can be found is c which equals -6.
Am i completely on the wrong track or is there something i am overlooking when I am doing this
please help
thanks

Because there are two equations, you should be able to determine two of the coefficients in terms of the third. That's why the problem says to find two such parabolas.
However, I also do not see how you got c= -6. Please show your work.
 
1 -1 1 3
4 2 1 12



can be transformed by a sequence of elementary row operations to the matrix

1 0 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 3
0 1 -1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 0



Step 2: Interpret the reduced row echelon form


The reduced row echelon form of the augmented matrix is

1 0 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 3
0 1 -1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 0



which corresponds to the system

1 x1 +(1/2) x3 = 3
1 x2 +(-1/2) x3 = 0

x1 = +(-1/2) x3 +3
x2 = +(1/2) x3
x3 = arbitrary
 
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