Solving Particle Collision: Find Mass Ratio from Total Angle

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The discussion centers on calculating the mass ratio of two particles involved in an elastic collision based on their post-collision angles. The user successfully determined that when m1 is 20 and the angles are 55.6 degrees and 50 degrees, m2 equals 40. They seek a simplified formula to find the mass ratio from the total angle after the collision, emphasizing the importance of conservation laws. A correction to the y-direction momentum equation is proposed, indicating that negative angles affect the sine function. The user notes that while a total angle of 90 degrees consistently indicates equal masses, a total angle of 105.6 degrees does not yield a straightforward mass ratio.
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So there is a particle with m1 that hits a particle m2 at rest, they bounce off at angles theta1 and theta2 from the horizontal. The original problem proposes that you can find the mass of the second particle from knowing the first particle, and the angles that they both make from the horizontal after the elastic collision. So i solved the equation when m1 = 20 and theta1 = 55.6 degrees and theta2 = 50 degrees, and i found out that m2 = 40.

But what I am trying to find is an easier way to solve, so a formula to discover the ratio of the two masses from the total angle after the elastic collision

So conservation of momentum in x-direction:
m1v (before)= m1v1cos(theta1) + m2v2cos(theta2) (after)

y-direction:
m1v1sin(theta1) - m2v2sin(theta2) = 0

conservation of KE:
1/2(m1)(v^2) = 1/2(m1)(v1^2) + 1/2(m2)(v2)^2

help please
 
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Here's the equation that my friend and I found...

We can find the ratio based off of the observed angles. We want to know how to find the angles (or spread) that result for any given ratio of masses.
 

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Py is wrong
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y-direction:
m1v1sin(theta1) - m2v2sin(theta2) = 0
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Negative angles correlate to negative sin..
it should be: m1v1sin(theta1) + m2v2sin(theta2) = 0

With that modification the equation becomes what I have attached.

What puzzles me is how a span of 105.6 does not always correlate to 2m1=m2...
A span of 90 always correlates to m1=m2...
 

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