Solving Pe + Ke Problem for Block of Mass m and Height h

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A block of mass m slides up a hill of height (3/2)h and requires a minimum initial speed to reach the top. The correct calculation shows that the initial speed must be (3gh)^(1/2), while the user initially calculated it as (2gh)^(1/2). The height of the block does not affect the energy calculations, as mass cancels out in the equations. The user realized their mistake in the algebra after further consideration. Understanding the energy conservation principle is key to solving the problem correctly.
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A block of mass m and height h slides without friction up a hill rise of height (3/2)h as shown. In order to make it to the top of the hill, the block must have a minimum initial speed of:



Pe+Ke = Pe(f) + Ke(f)



I tried figuring out what the velocity of the block would be if it had slid down the hill. I was assuming it would require that amount of velocity to go back up the hill (maybe I assumed wrong). The answer listed is (3gh)^1/2 However my answer was (2gh)^1/2. The block has a height h but I don't understand why the size of the block should matter. Nor do I have any idea of how to incorporate that fact into my equation, please help.
 
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[ b]A block of mass m and height h slides without friction up a hill rise of height (3/2)h as shown. In order to make it to the top of the hill, the block must have a minimum initial speed of:[/b]

[ b]Pe+Ke = Pe(f) + Ke(f)[/b]

[ b]I tried figuring out what the velocity of the block would be if it had slid down the hill. I was assuming it would require that amount of velocity to go back up the hill (maybe I assumed wrong). The answer listed is (3gh)^1/2 However my answer was (2gh)^1/2. The block has a height h but I don't understand why the size of the block should matter. Nor do I have any idea of how to incorporate that fact into my equation, please help. [/b]
Please don't use a bold font when posting a thread.

You're right that the height of the block doesn't matter.

Check you algebra.

Show your work.
 
Um, when you start a thread it says (without the forward / in the beginning):

[/b]1. Homework Statement [/b]
[/b]2. Homework Equations [/b]
[/b]3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b]

So, the site is asking me to put it in bold, that's why I did it.

In any case here is my algebra in steps:

mgh = 1/2mV^2 (mass'es cancel)
gh=1/2V^2 (multiply both sides by 2)
2gh=V^2 (square both sides)
V=2gh^1/2
 
The answer suggest that it was raised to a height of 3/2 h. So the bottom of the block was raised up to the top of the hill then.
 
vysero said:
Um, when you start a thread it says (without the forward / in the beginning):
No. The site assumes that you leave its titles alone and in bold, then after the title you put in your text -- not in bold.

As follows:

Homework Statement


A block of mass m and height h slides without friction up a hill rise of height (3/2)h as shown. In order to make it to the top of the hill, the block must have a minimum initial speed of:

Homework Equations


Pe+Ke = Pe(f) + Ke(f)

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried figuring out what the velocity of the block would be if it had slid down the hill. I was assuming it would require that amount of velocity to go back up the hill (maybe I assumed wrong). The answer listed is (3gh)^1/2 However my answer was (2gh)^1/2. The block has a height h but I don't understand why the size of the block should matter. Nor do I have any idea of how to incorporate that fact into my equation, please help.
So, the site is asking me to put it in bold, that's why I did it.
I fully understand why you did post in bold.
In any case here is my algebra in steps:

mgh = 1/2mV^2 (mass'es cancel)
gh=1/2V^2 (multiply both sides by 2)
2gh=V^2 (square both sides)
V=2gh^1/2
The hill has a rise of (3/2)h so that should be

mg((3/2)h) = 1/2mV^2 ,

so all will work out fine.
 
Right I noticed what I did wrong when I was going to sleep, I must have been tired. Thanks for the help.
 
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