Solving Problems Without Guess & Check

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a mathematical problem related to the perimeter of a sector, specifically exploring methods to find values for a variable without resorting to guess and check techniques. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving strategies.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the problem can be solved without guess and check, indicating uncertainty about the given parameters.
  • Another participant notes that the radius was mentioned, suggesting that it is relevant to the problem but does not clarify its value.
  • A mathematical expression for the perimeter of the sector is presented, leading to an inequality that defines the range for the variable n.
  • Subsequent calculations are provided to narrow down the possible integer values for n based on the derived inequality.
  • Participants agree on the potential integer values for n being 7, 8, 9, 10, or 11, based on the calculations involving an approximation of π.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the possible integer values for n, but there is an initial uncertainty regarding the parameters of the problem, particularly the radius.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the initial uncertainty about the radius and relies on an approximation of π, which may affect the precision of the results.

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I guess that depends, since we aren't given the radius...

-Dan

Edit: I guess the radius was mentioned. (Ahem!) (Angry)
 
The perimeter $P$ of the given sector is:

$$P=2n+n\frac{360}{n}\cdot\frac{\pi}{180}=2(n+\pi)$$

So, we want:

$$20<P<30$$

$$20<2(n+\pi)<30$$

$$10<n+\pi<15$$

Can you continue
 
N can equal 7,8,9,10, or 11?
 
Ilikebugs said:
N can equal 7,8,9,10, or 11?

Well, let's see:

$$10<n+\pi<15$$

$$10-\pi<n<15-\pi$$

Let's use $\pi\approx3.14$:

$$6.86<n<11.86$$

Hence:

$$n\in\{7,8,9,10,11\}\quad\checkmark$$
 

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