Solving Second Order Partial Derivative By Changing Variable

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The discussion revolves around solving the second order partial differential equation u_{xx} + 2u_{xy} + u_{yy}=0 using a change of variables, specifically t = x and z = x - y. The initial attempt at applying the chain rule for the first derivative was successful, but the user encountered difficulties when trying to apply it to the second derivative. Clarifications were provided regarding the application of Schwartz's theorem for mixed derivatives, emphasizing that it holds under certain conditions. Ultimately, a suggestion was made to introduce operators to simplify the equation, leading to a more straightforward solution involving the new independent variables x - y and x + y. The user expressed gratitude for the assistance received in resolving the problem.
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1. The problem statement, all variables, and given/known data
Given is a second order partial differential equation $$u_{xx} + 2u_{xy} + u_{yy}=0$$ which should be solved with change of variables, namely ##t = x## and ##z = x-y##.

Homework Equations


Chain rule $$\frac{dz}{dx} = \frac{dz}{dy} \cdot \frac{dy}{dx}$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to make the first change of variables $$\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} = \frac{\partial u}{\partial t} \cdot \frac{\partial t}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial u}{\partial z} \cdot \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = u_t + u_z$$ but I'm stuck at making the second change of variables (for second derivative). If I attempt repeating the same process I end up with $$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2} = \frac{\partial}{\partial x}(\frac{\partial u}{\partial t} \cdot \frac{\partial t}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial u}{\partial z} \cdot \frac{\partial z}{\partial x}) = \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \cdot \frac{\partial u}{\partial t} + \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \cdot \frac{\partial u}{\partial z}$$I don't think that I can write something like ##u_{tx}##?

I think this task is easy to solve, I'm apparently just missing something, Can somebody please help me? I don't expect anyone to solve homework tasks instead of me, I just need some guidance.

PS: Hope you're having a wonderful Tuesday!
 
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Under certain conditions, i.e. if the second derivatives of ##u## are continuous, you can according to Schwartz theorem change the order of the mixed derivatives. E.g, $$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x \partial t}=\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial t \partial x}=\frac{\partial}{\partial t}(\frac{\partial u}{\partial x})$$.
 
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eys_physics said:
Under certain conditions, i.e. if the second derivatives of ##u## are continuous, you can according to Schwartz theorem change the order of the mixed derivatives. E.g, $$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x \partial t}=\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial t \partial x}=\frac{\partial}{\partial t}(\frac{\partial u}{\partial x})$$.
This is true when you are taking second derivatives with respect to independent variables - in the case of this problem t and z or x and y. It is not generally true when you make coordinate changes!
 
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Peter Alexander said:
1. The problem statement, all variables, and given/known data
Given is a second order partial differential equation $$u_{xx} + 2u_{xy} + u_{yy}=0$$ which should be solved with change of variables, namely ##t = x## and ##z = x-y##.

Homework Equations


Chain rule $$\frac{dz}{dx} = \frac{dz}{dy} \cdot \frac{dy}{dx}$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to make the first change of variables $$\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} = \frac{\partial u}{\partial t} \cdot \frac{\partial t}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial u}{\partial z} \cdot \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = u_t + u_z$$ but I'm stuck at making the second change of variables (for second derivative). If I attempt repeating the same process I end up with $$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2} = \frac{\partial}{\partial x}(\frac{\partial u}{\partial t} \cdot \frac{\partial t}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial u}{\partial z} \cdot \frac{\partial z}{\partial x}) = \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \cdot \frac{\partial u}{\partial t} + \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \cdot \frac{\partial u}{\partial z}$$I don't think that I can write something like ##u_{tx}##?

I think this task is easy to solve, I'm apparently just missing something, Can somebody please help me? I don't expect anyone to solve homework tasks instead of me, I just need some guidance.

PS: Hope you're having a wonderful Tuesday!

Your expression for the partial derivative of u with respect to x is true for any function u. In particular, it is true if you replace u by ##u_t##.
 
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Peter Alexander said:
1. The problem statement, all variables, and given/known data
Given is a second order partial differential equation $$u_{xx} + 2u_{xy} + u_{yy}=0$$ which should be solved with change of variables, namely ##t = x## and ##z = x-y##.

Homework Equations


Chain rule $$\frac{dz}{dx} = \frac{dz}{dy} \cdot \frac{dy}{dx}$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to make the first change of variables $$\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} = \frac{\partial u}{\partial t} \cdot \frac{\partial t}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial u}{\partial z} \cdot \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = u_t + u_z$$ but I'm stuck at making the second change of variables (for second derivative). If I attempt repeating the same process I end up with $$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2} = \frac{\partial}{\partial x}(\frac{\partial u}{\partial t} \cdot \frac{\partial t}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial u}{\partial z} \cdot \frac{\partial z}{\partial x}) = \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \cdot \frac{\partial u}{\partial t} + \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \cdot \frac{\partial u}{\partial z}$$I don't think that I can write something like ##u_{tx}##?

I think this task is easy to solve, I'm apparently just missing something, Can somebody please help me? I don't expect anyone to solve homework tasks instead of me, I just need some guidance.

PS: Hope you're having a wonderful Tuesday!

If you introduce the operators ##D_x = \partial / \partial x## and ##D_y = \partial / \partial y## your pde is ##(D_x+D_y)^2 u =0##. Thus, if ##v = (D_x + D_y) u## we have ##(D_x + D_y) v = 0, ## whose general solution is ##v = f(x-y)## for some differentiable univariate function ##f(\cdot)##. The pde becomes ##(D_x+D_y)u(x,y) = f(x-y)##. I think this new pde is fairly straightforward to solve, in terms of the new independent variables ##x-y## and ##x+y##.
 
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I apologize for the late response, did read through the post and managed to finally solve the task. I would like to thank everyone here for helping me out on that one, I appreciate your time and effort! Really helped me a lot!

Hope you're all having a fantastic Friday ;)
 
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