Solving Sets of Matrices for Proving Equivalence Relation

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The discussion focuses on proving that the relation defined by the condition \( X \rho Y \Longleftrightarrow (\exists A \in M) AXA^{-1}= Y \) is an equivalence relation for two sets of matrices, \( S \) and \( M \). Participants clarify that to establish reflexivity, one can use the identity matrix, while symmetry requires finding an inverse matrix in \( M \) for any given matrix \( A \). The transitivity of the relation is demonstrated by showing that if \( X \rho Y \) and \( Y \rho Z \), then \( X \rho Z \) holds true through matrix multiplication. It is noted that the properties of \( M \) as a group are essential for the proof, reinforcing the need to confirm that the product of matrices in \( M \) remains in \( M \). The conversation concludes with affirmations of the correctness of the steps taken in the proof.
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If there are two sets of matrices ##S = \begin{Bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} a & b \\ c & d \end{bmatrix} | a, b, c, d \in \mathbb{C} \end{Bmatrix} ## and
##M = \begin{Bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} a & b \\ -\overline{b} & \overline{a} \end{bmatrix} | a, b \in \mathbb{C} \wedge |a| + |b| \neq 0 \end{Bmatrix} ##

Then, for every ## X, Y \in S##

##X \rho Y \Longleftrightarrow ( \exists A \in M) AXA^{-1}= Y ##

It's AXA-1 up here, even though -1 doesn't seem like exponent.
Mod note: It's fixed now. In LaTeX, when an exponent consists of more than one character, put braces around the exponent. IOW, like this A^{-1}.
Prove that ## \rho ## is equivalence relation.

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Now, i know that in relation is equivalence if it's reflexive, symmetric and transitive, but i got the problem at the very beginning, i mean if it's reflexive then:

AXA-1=X

multiplying both sides by A on the right side i have

AX=XA but that proves nothing since multiplying of matrices isn't commutative. Any ideas?
 
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cdummie said:
Now, i know that in relation is equivalence if it's reflexive, symmetric and transitive, but i got the problem at the very beginning, i mean if it's reflexive then:

AXA-1=X

multiplying both sides by A on the right side i have

AX=XA but that proves nothing since multiplying of matrices isn't commutative. Any ideas?
The condition for two matrices to be equivalent is ##X \rho Y \Longleftrightarrow ( \exists A \in M) AXA^{-1}= Y ##
See the ##\exists A##?
##AXA^{-1}= Y## doesn't have to be true for all matrices ##A## for ##X## and ##Y## to be equivalent.
 
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Samy_A said:
The condition for two matrices to be equivalent is ##X \rho Y \Longleftrightarrow ( \exists A \in M) AXA^-1= Y ##
See the ##\exists A##?
##AXA^-1= Y## doesn't have to be true for all matrices ##A## for ##X## and ##Y## to be equivalent.
I know, finding at least one matrix from M that fits into this would be enough, but, how can i do that?
 
cdummie said:
I know, finding at least one matrix from M that fits into this would be enough, but, how can i do that?
Given a matrix ##X##, you need to find one matrix ##A## satisfying ##AXA^{-1}=X##. I think you are overthinking this one: actually, you can pick the "simplest" matrix there is, if we exclude the 0 matrix.
 
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Samy_A said:
Given a matrix ##X##, you need to find one matrix ##A## satisfying ##AXA^{-1}=X##. I think you are overthinking this one: actually, you can pick the "simplest" matrix there is, if we exclude the 0 matrix.

Oh i see it's unit matrix, but is there a way to find it algebraically?

Now, for the symmetry, i have:

## (\forall X, Y \in S) X \rho Y \Longleftrightarrow (\exists A \in M) AXA^{-1}=Y \Longleftrightarrow AX=YA \Longleftrightarrow X=A^{-1}YA ##

And that's all i have, and this isn't proving symmetry.
 
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Oh i see it's unit matrix, but is there a way to find it algebraically?
Yes, the unit matrix will do. I don't think you can find it algebraically in this context.
cdummie said:
Now, for the symmetry, i have:

## (\forall X, Y \in S) X \rho Y \Longleftrightarrow (\exists A \in M) AXA^{-1}=Y \Longleftrightarrow AX=YA \Longleftrightarrow X=A^{-1}YA ##

And that's all i have, and this isn't proving symmetry.
Well, you are very close. Having ##A \in M## satisfying ##AXA^{-1}=Y##, you need to find a matrix ##B \in M## satisfying ##BYB^{-1}=X##.
##B## can be a different matrix than ##A##...
 
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Samy_A said:
Yes, the unit matrix will do. I don't think you can find it algebraically in this context.
Well, you are very close. Having ##A \in M## satisfying ##AXA^{-1}=Y##, you need to find a matrix ##B \in M## satisfying ##BYB^{-1}=X##.
##B## can be a different matrix than ##A##...

This is what i thought of when you said that i am very close (correct me if i am wrong):

Since i have ##AXA^{-1}=Y## and i know that matrices in set M are all regular since ## |a| + |b| \neq 0## i could maybe think of matrix that is inverse matrix of A, knowing the following rule that works for all 2x2 matrices: ## A^{-1} = \frac{1}{detA} \begin{bmatrix} a & -b \\ \overline{b} & \overline{a} \end{bmatrix} ##
Now, since all of these are complex numbers it doesn't matter what determinant is as long as it isn't zero, and it is not, otherwise A wouldn't be in the set M in the first place so inverse matrix of A could be the matrix i am looking for.

Now, for the transitivity:

##(\forall X, Y, Z \in S) X \rho Y \land Y \rho Z \Longleftrightarrow (\exists A \in M) AXA^{-1} =Y \land (\exists B \in M) BYB^{-1} =Z \Longrightarrow
BAXA^{-1}B^{-1}=Z##

Since by multiplying B and A and A-1 and B-1 resulting matrices remain in the M, i calculated for AB and it can be equal to some matrix C so C-1 is A-1B-1 which fits perfectly and proves that this relation is transitive and therefore it is equivalence relation. Now, thanks a lot for your help, and please correct me if i made any mistakes here.
 
What you implicitly used is that ##M## is a group, i.e. ##1 ∈ M##, ##(A ∈ M ⇒ A^{-1} ∈ M)## and ## (A,B ∈ M ⇒ AB ∈ M)##. Whether this can be assumed or has to be proven depends on where you start at. The first one is obvious and the second one is almost shown by you. (I think you made a little mistake with the inverse matrix: change ##a## and ##\bar{a}##.) So maybe you have to show the third property, too.
 
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cdummie said:
This is what i thought of when you said that i am very close (correct me if i am wrong):

Since i have ##AXA^{-1}=Y## and i know that matrices in set M are all regular since ## |a| + |b| \neq 0## i could maybe think of matrix that is inverse matrix of A, knowing the following rule that works for all 2x2 matrices: ## A^{-1} = \frac{1}{detA} \begin{bmatrix} a & -b \\ \overline{b} & \overline{a} \end{bmatrix} ##
Now, since all of these are complex numbers it doesn't matter what determinant is as long as it isn't zero, and it is not, otherwise A wouldn't be in the set M in the first place so inverse matrix of A could be the matrix i am looking for.

Now, for the transitivity:

##(\forall X, Y, Z \in S) X \rho Y \land Y \rho Z \Longleftrightarrow (\exists A \in M) AXA^{-1} =Y \land (\exists B \in M) BYB^{-1} =Z \Longrightarrow
BAXA^{-1}B^{-1}=Z##

Since by multiplying B and A and A-1 and B-1 resulting matrices remain in the M, i calculated for AB and it can be equal to some matrix C so C-1 is A-1B-1 which fits perfectly and proves that this relation is transitive and therefore it is equivalence relation. Now, thanks a lot for your help, and please correct me if i made any mistakes here.
Yes, that is correct (except the little mistake in the inverse as noted by @fresh_42).
That the product of two matrices in M is also an element of M can be shown by a straightforward computation.
 
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