Solving Sine Rule Question: Angle B & A in Triangle ABC

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The discussion revolves around solving a triangle using the Sine rule, specifically focusing on determining the angles B and A in Triangle ABC, given angle C and the lengths of sides AB and AC. Participants explore the implications of the ambiguous case in trigonometry, where multiple solutions for angle B may exist.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates angle B using the Sine rule and finds B to be approximately 59 degrees, but is unsure about the second possible value of 120.9 degrees.
  • Another participant explains that since $\sin(B) \approx 0.86$, there are two angles in the range of 0 to 180 degrees that satisfy this condition, specifically B being approximately 180 degrees minus the arcsine of 0.86.
  • Participants note that the sum of angle B (120.68 degrees) and angle C (48.15 degrees) is less than 180 degrees, indicating the possibility of a second triangle.
  • Further clarification is provided on how to find angle A based on the two possible values of angle B, emphasizing that the sum of the angles in a triangle must equal 180 degrees.

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Participants generally agree on the existence of two possible triangles based on the calculations, but there is some confusion regarding the conditions under which multiple solutions arise and how to calculate angle A from the two possible values of angle B.

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Participants express uncertainty about the conditions that lead to multiple solutions for angle B and how to appropriately calculate angle A based on those solutions.

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I understand how to use the Sine rule, but I think I may get stuck halfway through!

My questions is:
In a Triangle ABC the angle at C is 48.15 degrees, side AB is 15.3m and side AC is 17.6m.
Calculate the size of angle B and angle A, giving all possible solutions, in degrees accurate to 1 d.p.

I used the Sine rule.
$$\frac{SinB}{17.6}=\frac{Sin(48.15)}{15.3}$$
$$\therefore$$$$SinB=\frac{15.3}{Sin(48.15)x17.6} = 0.86$$

so, B=$$Sin^{-1}(0.86)$$
B= 59 degrees.

I understand up to here, but in the solution B can = 59 or 120.9 degrees. Where I am not sure where 120.9 comes from!

Therefore I can only solve for B but not for A. Any help?
 
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There are two angles for which:

$$\sin(B)\approx0.86$$ and $$0^{\circ}<B<180^{\circ}$$

You found the first quadrant angle, but recall the identity:

$$\sin\left(180^{\circ}-\theta\right)=\sin(\theta)$$

Therefore, we also find that it may be possible that:

$$B\approx180^{\circ}-\arcsin(0.86)\approx120.68^{\circ}$$

Now, since:

$$120.68+48.15=168.83<180$$

We know there are two possible triangles that satisfy the given conditions. You can read more about the ambiguous case here:

Law of sines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
MarkFL said:
There are two angles for which:

$$\sin(B)\approx0.86$$ and $$0^{\circ}<B<180^{\circ}$$

You found the first quadrant angle, but recall the identity:

$$\sin\left(180^{\circ}-\theta\right)=\sin(\theta)$$

Therefore, we also find that it may be possible that:

$$B\approx180^{\circ}-\arcsin(0.86)\approx120.68^{\circ}$$

Now, since:

$$120.68+48.15=168.83<180$$

We know there are two possible triangles that satisfy the given conditions. You can read more about the ambiguous case here:

Law of sines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I fairly understand..

So, since we found out the first quadrant, angle B which is 59 degrees.
We can say B $$\approx180 - sin^{-1}(0.86)\approx120.86$$

Can I ask when do we know that the angle can have two solutions?

We have angle C as 48.15, angle B can be either 59 or 120. Or can angle A be 168.
Sorry, abit confused!
 
We know there can be two triangles because:

$120.68+48.15=168.83<180$

Because the sum of the given angle and the larger possibility is less than $180^{\circ}$, we know this leaves room for the third angle.

So, when $\angle B\approx 59.32^{\circ}$ then $\angle A\approx180^{\circ}-\left(48.15+59.32\right)^{\circ}$ and when $\angle B\approx 120.68^{\circ}$ then $\angle A\approx180^{\circ}-\left(48.15+120.68\right)^{\circ}$. This is because the sum of the three interior angles of a triangle is always $180^{\circ}$.
 
MarkFL said:
We know there can be two triangles because:

$120.68+48.15=168.83<180$

Because the sum of the given angle and the larger possibility is less than $180^{\circ}$, we know this leaves room for the third angle.

So, when $\angle B\approx 59.32^{\circ}$ then $\angle A\approx180^{\circ}-\left(48.15+59.32\right)^{\circ}$ and when $\angle B\approx 120.68^{\circ}$ then $\angle A\approx180^{\circ}-\left(48.15+120.68\right)^{\circ}$. This is because the sum of the three interior angles of a triangle is always $180^{\circ}$.

Thanks! Makes a lot more sense now :D
 

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